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scanfield
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Joined: 21 Nov 2011
Posts: 170
Location: Texas
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Espresso: La Nuovo Era Cuadra
Grinder: Baratza Vario

Posted Tue Jan 31, 2012, 8:21pm
Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread

slybarman Said:

No scalding showers from mine either. Maybe the rubber gasket in the groiuphead is not seated properly?

Posted January 31, 2012 link

It isn't spraying from around the grouphead. The gasket is fine. It's very energetic water coming out of the pf spouts. Next time I use it, I'll shoot a video and post a link.

For the people who are adjusting their pstats - why are you doing it? I assumed it was for temperature control and perhaps that's what would fix this.

Rob55
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Joined: 6 Oct 2010
Posts: 100
Location: Canton, Ohio
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: La Nuova Era Cuadra
Grinder: Baratza Vario
Drip: Cuisinart

Posted Tue Jan 31, 2012, 9:17pm Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread

the hot water spraying is if you are not using a bottomless... the ones that are not getting this are most likely using the bottomless..... adjusting the p-stat will NOT eliminate this.... BUT.... why don't you simply put a cup under it, lift the cup until it covers the spout then turn it on. Dump the water down the sink...that way you won't have to clean it up or empty the tray a bunch of extra times. I use the cup I am going to pull into. This preheats the cup too. Heating the cup like this also eliminates the cups falling off the top. Don't put them there and they can't fall off. adjusting the p-stat lowers the temp of the water in the boiler. This will reduce the amount of water it takes to do the cooling flush. However too low will leave you with maybe a little trouble with frothing. I adjusted mine twice. The first time I had it a bit low.

Mr_Faineant
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Joined: 7 Jan 2012
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Location: Tampa, FL
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Espresso: La Nuova Era Cuadra
Grinder: Vario

Posted Tue Jan 31, 2012, 11:10pm Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread

Still no luck with my leaky group head. We are trying to work it out, but there is a stubborn nut at the top that I can't get loose. Unfortunately I have scratched the crap out of the group head whilst trying, also.

Mr_Faineant
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Espresso: La Nuova Era Cuadra
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Posted Thu Feb 2, 2012, 10:01pm Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra E61 HX - $995!

Rob, I just got my Motta. You said that you use it without any of the holes plugged, right? Do you hold the want vertically, in the center, or angled and close to the edge?

Rob55
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Espresso: La Nuova Era Cuadra
Grinder: Baratza Vario
Drip: Cuisinart

Posted Thu Feb 2, 2012, 10:07pm Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread

I adjust the wand so that its straight up and down. Hold the pitcher so wand is in center and barely under milk...let a bit of air in when stretching. When its to right volume sink wand almost to bottom. When done sit the pitcher down...clean the wand, then come back to pitcher and tap it on counter a couple times....swirl a bit and it should be about perfect. (I keep pitcher in freezer) I have never plugged any of the holes.

Mr_Faineant
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Espresso: La Nuova Era Cuadra
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Posted Fri Feb 3, 2012, 8:16am Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread

Ok, thanks. Just made my first attempt...It was ok, but the foam was a bit bubbly and not at all integrated. I guess it's just a matter of practice. Hopefully Jim is making progress with the two hole tips.

tigermilk
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Joined: 15 Dec 2011
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Location: Houston, TX
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Posted Fri Feb 3, 2012, 3:03pm Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread

Think I may finally be ready to write a review for this thing. I've had it over a month now (first machine ever) and have develop a fair amount of skill with it. I'm running it "stock" - 4 hole tip and not messing with the pressure. I've learned to simply trust the steam wand when it comes to milk. I was getting too much foam at first, but now I just dunk it about 1/2 inch below the surface at let it go. It really does develop a nice microfoam which is really distinct once I slurp up all the tasty drink to see tiny bubbles clinging to the surface of the cup. Last night my wife had some French pressed coffee with straight-up milk, and she complained about how lousy it was; she has become accustomed to the steamed milk I can produce with the Cuadra.

Rob55
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Location: Canton, Ohio
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Espresso: La Nuova Era Cuadra
Grinder: Baratza Vario
Drip: Cuisinart

Posted Fri Feb 3, 2012, 6:21pm
Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread

Mr_Faineant Said:

Ok, thanks.

Just made my first attempt...It was ok, but the foam was a bit bubbly and not at all integrated. I guess it's just a matter of practice. Hopefully Jim is making progress with the two hole tips.

Posted February 3, 2012 link

if you put in too much air.... or go a little long you will get some of the dry foam on top. So don't get carried away with adding air and don't go too long.

Brentvdg
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Posted Sat Feb 4, 2012, 6:59am
Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread

Rob55 Said:

I adjust the wand so that its straight up and down. Hold the pitcher so wand is in center and barely under milk...let a bit of air in when stretching. When its to right volume sink wand almost to bottom. When done sit the pitcher down...clean the wand, then come back to pitcher and tap it on counter a couple times....swirl a bit and it should be about perfect. (I keep pitcher in freezer)

I have never plugged any of the holes.

Posted February 2, 2012 link

I'm in the same boat with Rob in regards to technique - it seems to be doing to trick for me too!

slybarman
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Joined: 3 Nov 2011
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Location: usa
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Espresso: La Nuova Era Cuadra
Grinder: Baratza Vario

Posted Sun Feb 5, 2012, 8:05am Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread

I further adjusted my P-stat and I think I have found a sweet spot for my tastes. It was a small adjustment back upward, but it seems like small adjustments around the 1 bar mark have considerable effect. I am using a bit less water to flush, but I am getting better steam pressure and good microfoam once again. I have been making some notable lattes with Counter Coulture La Forza this week. I am still annoyed by the cup warmer. I looked at it a bit more this morning and have a plan for how I want to modify it. My plan is to remove or straighten the rear rests (circled in red in the photo below) and cut and bend forward some new tabs in the SS of the back panel piece (blue lines in the photo below). The result will be to lower the back end of the cup warmer tray a bit, removing the forward slope. It seems to me that they should have extended the stock ones a bit lower before putting the 90 degree bend in them. Thoughts on why this would not work? Also, has anyone descaled their machine yet? How does the fact that we were told to only remove 4 oz of water through the hot water wand at one time change the way we should go about descaling? The general instructions I saw talk about moving a considerable amount of water through the hot water wand. This seems like it would be painfully slow 4 ounces at a time. (Click for larger image)

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