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karmadog
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Posted Thu Nov 8, 2007, 9:19pm
Subject: The Starbucks Sirena Thread
 

Hello all.  My local starbucks has a new espresso machine they are calling the Sirena.  The starbucks website has a flashy website describing the machine.  I believe it is made by Saeco.

The form factor is really quite nice and would look good in the kitchen.  However, I don't want to purchase something based totally on how it looks ... so I have been searching for reviews of this machine and haven't come up with anything.

Has anybody purchased this machine, or seen it in action, or seen any reviews they'd be willing to share?
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Posted Fri Nov 9, 2007, 1:10pm
Subject: Re: Has anybody purchased the new Starbucks Sirena?
 

I just checked out the site for it.   Designed by BMW, insides by Saeco.

I noticed that the portafilter is the same one that came with my Carezza.  Interesting...

 
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Posted Fri Nov 9, 2007, 1:47pm
Subject: Re: Has anybody purchased the new Starbucks Sirena?
 

Hi Bushrod, is that a good thing, that it has the same portafilter as your Carezza?

I'm a complete newbie, so please bear with me if that's a dumb question.
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Posted Fri Nov 9, 2007, 7:59pm
Subject: Re: Has anybody purchased the new Starbucks Sirena?
 

So I had the chance to buy a Sirena at an employee discount (close family member is an employee).  I was told it was designed AND "BUILT"by BMWandStarbucks; was supposed to look awesome, but I didn't buy it because I couldn't find out anything about it.  Bought the Ascaso Dream for a great price.  Later found out that the Sirena was built w/ or by Saeco, but still not sure.  By what I gather from my "close family member", they're selling looks and the BMW/Starbucks nameplate.  It could be a good machine, but that's not what they're selling.  BMW?????? If this machine doesn't have QUATTRO, I ain't buying. ;}
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Posted Sat Nov 10, 2007, 3:03am
Subject: Re: Has anybody purchased the new Starbucks Sirena?
 

I work there, but I won't ever buy a Saeco again.  The last two years my Saeco Vienna has been in the shop more than a few times and it was never really making a good shot after the first time in reparation.

I don't know for a fact it's made by Saeco, but I did hear that there were some BMW parts.  Not to say it's a "bad" machine, but no thanks, I love my new Solis :)
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Posted Sun Nov 11, 2007, 8:31am
Subject: Re: Has anybody purchased the new Starbucks Sirena?
 

Haven't purchased it (didn't want to be one of the "first"--good or not), but according to Starbucks' interactive site on the Sirena, it is still made by Saeco (one of the videos on the site said it).  It will be interesting to see how this machine does/is reviewed.

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Posted Sun Nov 11, 2007, 9:11am
Subject: Re: Has anybody purchased the new Starbucks Sirena?
 

karmadog Said:

Hi Bushrod, is that a good thing, that it has the same portafilter as your Carezza?

I'm a complete newbie, so please bear with me if that's a dumb question.

Posted November 9, 2007 link


 Appears you insert a pressure adapter plug into the portafilter to make it pressurized.

I wonder if it will operate like a regular non-presuurized carezza porta filter if you do not add the plug/rubber disk, this may allow you to use finer coffee/tamp for a slower 25 second shot.

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Posted Sun Nov 11, 2007, 12:33pm
Subject: Re: Has anybody purchased the new Starbucks Sirena?
 

My favorite quote from the website is "for optimum espresso flavor, do not tamp."  Oh, Starbucks.  Also, I went into a local Starbucks that carried the Sirena for a demo.  Waste of time.  Employee didn't recognize the name of the machine, or even know how to plug it in.  So much for training.  As a former employee of Starbucks, I am appalled at the status of espresso in the stores.  The Regalo espresso blend, however, is pretty good; you have to get it while it fresh though.  Also, make sure the employees know that you DO NOT want them to grind it for you.
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Posted Sun Nov 11, 2007, 12:51pm
Subject: Re: Has anybody purchased the new Starbucks Sirena?
 

With regards to the "for optimum espresso flavor, do not tamp":

While I would prefer in some ways a machine like the Silvia since it is basically a manual operation, allowing the user to experiment -- I have to say, the auto tamping feature actually does hold some appeal to me.

The reason for this is I have 4 kids ... all under 6 years old.  My house is a zoo, so the ability to concentrate on the finer aspects of barista-ism is likely a while away.  

If the pressure adapter is removable, thats the best of both worlds I suppose.  While the kids are small and I can't spend a lot of time and concentration on the finickier aspects of brewing, this might help.  Once they've gotten a bit older and more able to entertain themselves, I could experiment with removing the pressure adapter (if thats even possible).

I have to agree about the staff at Starbucks though ... they know next to nothign about the brewing equipment they sell -- so its hard to find somebody knowledgeable to speak to at those places.
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Posted Sun Nov 11, 2007, 3:42pm
Subject: Re: Has anybody purchased the new Starbucks Sirena?
 

Is Starbucks back in the espresso machine business?  I haven't spotted this new one in my local store yet.
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