ccolton Senior Member Joined: 23 Jan 2012 Posts: 132 Location: Wilmington DE Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: Bezzera BZ07 Grinder: Le 'lit PL53
Posted Wed Apr 18, 2012, 3:22am Subject: Re: Suggestions for newbie espresso maker to make great latte drinks
Hi John,
I don't know about the auto-dosing feature so you should listen to those who are more knowledgeable. Good luck.
Yes I have a boat and will be close by - I just reserved dock space at Delaware City Marina. I recently purchased a neglected 1969 Swan 43 sloop. To launch, I need to finish building a new rudder, if that gives you any idea about the condition of the boat. Like you, I have children who love the water and working on boats, two boys, ages 15 and 19, so they really can do a lot.
Now I am thinking about how I can get my wife to consider an espresso machine for the boat!
I think you will like the BZ07 but, like me, you may start to drink too much coffee!
calblacksmith Moderator Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 5,685 Location: Riverside, Ca, U.S.A. Expertise: I live coffee
Espresso: ECM Veneziano A1 Grinder: Many different commercial Vac Pot: 40s era Silex Drip: Milita, Bunn&Curtis... Roaster: Cast iron pan, gas burner
Posted Wed Apr 18, 2012, 6:36am Subject: Re: Suggestions for newbie espresso maker to make great latte drinks
Chris. For the boat, if you have a cook top in the galley you can get a stove top hot water kettle and a My Pressi twist then take your grinder from home and have all you could ever want on the boat. It will not take up a lot of room, is easy to use, gives great espresso and does not require any electric power. I have one for travel as it was the best answer for me to the limits of size, weight and power requirements. You should at least give it a look as it is only $149 and in a pinch, you can just use a sauce pan on the stove for the hot water. YMMV!
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SeaNile Senior Member Joined: 11 Apr 2012 Posts: 13 Location: Chadds Ford, PA Expertise: Just starting
Posted Thu May 10, 2012, 6:12pm Subject: Re: Suggestions for newbie espresso maker to make great latte drinks
Tried to order today but no one ever called me back! Looking at B7O7 fully auto, Vario W and a few accessories. I forget what my original budget was but I have a feeling this is about 2x what my original plan was!
justthefacts Senior Member Joined: 9 Aug 2011 Posts: 10 Location: Florida Expertise: Just starting
Posted Fri May 11, 2012, 4:00am Subject: Re: Suggestions for newbie espresso maker to make great latte drinks
I was in the same position as you last October. I ended up blowing my budget and bought a BZ07 Semiautomatic and a Vario (the Vario W was just being introduced). In retrospect, I should have gone with the fully automatic and the W, so I think you are making a fantastic choice. I didn't I predict how much I would appreciate the fully automatic feature. At the time, I cringed at the thought of paying the extra $100. Funny how I look back and think, "yeah, that would have been worth it". I also didn't realize, as a noob, that I would prefer dosing by weight. I thought the timed feature of the Vario would be sufficient, but I found that I like the better control weighing the dose gives me. So now I am weighing out my beans and then single dosing the grinder.
Nevertheless, I am making great coffee and enjoying my setup multiple times a day.
Coffeenoobie Senior Member Joined: 11 Dec 2011 Posts: 2,324 Location: PNW Expertise: I like coffee
Espresso: N S Oscar Grinder: Vario W
Posted Fri May 11, 2012, 10:53am Subject: Re: Suggestions for newbie espresso maker to make great latte drinks
It might be over your budget but this is not an impulse buy you have been thinking about this for at least a month. You have researched it and made an informed choice. With a set up like that you should never have to upgrade. (doesn't mean you might ever want too but you will not be forced to) I did the same thing, went way over what I first said I would spend, but I thought about it a lot and read all the "I want to upgrade this starter machine" posts and figured in the long run I would be happier with a machine I would live with for a long time. And I love the weighing right into my basket with the vario W.
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SeaNile Senior Member Joined: 11 Apr 2012 Posts: 13 Location: Chadds Ford, PA Expertise: Just starting
Posted Fri May 11, 2012, 9:12pm Subject: Re: Suggestions for newbie espresso maker to make great latte drinks
B7O7 fully auto, Vario W, tamper and milk jug (forget the name) has me slightly over $2000 with overnight saturday delivery. Now that it will arrive in time for Mother's Day, where can I get beans? Would Whole Foods carry them? I'm going to get plenty of whole milk and beans so we can spend a lot of time practicing making all these drinks. Hopefully I can make a decent latte on Sunday for us to enjoy.
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