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JamesPN007
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Joined: 2 May 2012
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Location: Southeast Florida
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: LaSpaziale S1 Vivaldi II
Grinder: Mahlkonig K30 Vario
Posted Wed May 9, 2012, 11:31pm
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La Spaziale mini vivaldi has an excellent track record for performance and reliability.  I have the vivaldi ii (plumbed version) which is great, and mini performance is on par.  CCS has a new Quickmill DB available soon, which would seem to tick off all your requirements, and at a "low" introductory price.
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Espresso: Elektra T1 - La Valentina -...
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Vac Pot: Yama 5-cup
Drip: CCD, Chemex
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Posted Thu May 10, 2012, 7:47am
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La Marzocco GS/3:  16.00"W     15.50"H     21.00"D     (5,280 in.)

Izzo Alex Duetto II:  14.25"W     15.75"H     16.50"D     (3,703.25 in.)     $2395.00

Quick Mill DB 0992:  11.00"W     15.50"H     17.00"D     (2,898.5 in.)     $1699.00

Rocket DB R58:  12.25"W     16.25"H     17.50"D     (3,483.6 in.)     $2699.00

Vibiemme "DD" v.3:  10.60"W     16.50"H     21.00"D     (3,672.9 in.)     $2649.00

 
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EspressoObsessed
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Espresso: GS/3
Grinder: CMH; VL M3
Drip: TV, KMB, Eva Solo, AP
Roaster: Behmor 1600
Posted Thu May 10, 2012, 11:31am
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I appreciate all the great ideas. The Breville doesn't save much space. The DCM lacks a hot water spigot; given that almost half of our drinks are Americanos, this won't work. Otherwise it would be the winner, especially as it appears to have a saturated group head. The Mini Vivaldi is too wide and also not PIDed.

It appears that the remaining contenders as highlighted by Jason above are all E61 machines. Thanks for your helpful chart with links!

I am now trying to increase my knowledge base on this type of group. Has the mano aspect of using the E61 changed much with the introduction of DBs and PIDs? Does the group temperature vary much from shot to shot as much as it used to prior to adding them?

Again, thanks for all your input!

Mary
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Espresso: Spaz vivaldi S1 V2
Grinder: B Vario, OE LIDO
Drip: Chemex, Espro Press,...
Roaster: Poppery I
Posted Thu May 10, 2012, 11:49am
Subject: Re: Downsizing our espresso machine
 

EspressoObsessed Said:

The Mini Vivaldi is too wide and also not PIDed.

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I thought you'd think it too wide and so no protest here.  But for record, those annoying (or lovely depending on perspective) lights on the front are the PID.    Set temp in 1 degree C increments.
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