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edmonton66
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Posted Sun May 13, 2012, 6:58pm
Subject: Rocket V2
 

Anyone know why Rocket decided to abandon the nickel plated boilers for the V2 Giotto/Cellini lines?  I read a post from one user who bought a used Giotto in rough shape who had flecks of silver stuff coming out when he cleaned/descaled the machine and he figured it was nickel coming off the inside of the boiler.  I'm trying to decide whether I should jump on the sales being offered on the V1 here in Canada or wait for the V2.  Also not sure whether the extra manometer is worth the wait.  Anyone?
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Posted Mon May 14, 2012, 12:29am
Subject: Re: Rocket V2
 

I emailed one of the co-owners on this. There is a big misconception on this. The boiler was only nickel plated on the outside for insulation, not inside. However, I was told that a very small amount of nickel MAY enter the internal faces of the boiler in this process. They said they had no issues in the 4 years of using it. Perhaps the nickel your friend is finding is from the E61 head? I don't know much about those heads, so I don't know if it is possible.
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Posted Mon May 14, 2012, 6:12am
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I personally do not see an issue. The descaling chemicals can be a bit hard on chrome surfaces so I see the non lining of a boiler as natural.

If you like the machine, buy it. If it worries you a lot, then don't. As I said, I see it as a non issue but it is your money so you need to spend it according to what will fit your needs and feelings best.

 
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Posted Mon May 14, 2012, 6:21am
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Anyone else think the concept of naming your machine a V2 Rocket may not be the best marketing idea . . . use Roman numerals, or something . . . lower case "v" . . . anything!

 
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Posted Mon May 14, 2012, 6:27am
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LOL! GREAT catch!!!!!

 
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Posted Mon May 14, 2012, 6:29am
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I can't see a V2 anything selling big in Britain, and particularly in London. Ouch!

And that is a good call on the silver flakes from the E-61 group itself, and in particular, the mushroom. Water chemistry and backflushing chemicals can do that. Many owners just use a power wire brush or an appropriate abrasive solution and remove the rest of the chrome from the mushroom when they find that.

 
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Posted Fri Jun 8, 2012, 4:29pm
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Indeed, good catch on the name but I would imagine anytime a manufacturer can remove a step in the production process, that would lead to savings and possibly reduced quality issues. Of course, if you remove too many steps, I guess it could lead to increased quality issues.
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