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jnboone
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Joined: 12 Jun 2012
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Location: Memphis, TN
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Grinder: Vario-W
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Posted Wed Jun 13, 2012, 2:41pm
Subject: newb
 

I'm new to espresso and new to the forum.  Have done what I think is a lot of reading contemplating first purchase and I think I've come down to these choices.  Would appreciate any input.

Grinder:  either the Vario or the Vario W

Machine:  either the Silvia (maybe with PID) or the NS Oscar

I like espresso and milk based drinks - latte's.  Would probably make 4 espresso's and 2-4 latte's a day (between the Mrs and me).

I'm looking for something that will obviously make both drinks well, consistently, and as easy as possible - because I'm a newb.  Any advice?
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Posted Wed Jun 13, 2012, 2:45pm
Subject: Re: newb
 

Welcome to the CG forums!  Short answer is, I believe many of us here would pick an Oscar over a Silvia, if deciding only between those two.  The more important choice to make is grinder, and you've certainly done a good job with that selecting the Vario.  To assist you further, it would be helpful to know your budget.  Also, would you consider plumbing in (either now or in the future)?

 
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jnboone
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Posted Wed Jun 13, 2012, 2:57pm
Subject: Re: newb
 

Could not plumb anytime in the near future, but it could be a definite possibility in the future.  Would like to stay close to $1500-1600
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Posted Wed Jun 13, 2012, 3:45pm
Subject: Re: newb
 

Ron is dead on. Good choice on the grinder and only between those two, for me, Oscar hands down.

Oscar is a great value and a very dependable machine, he should keep you happy for a long time.

 
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Posted Wed Jun 13, 2012, 9:54pm
Subject: Re: newb
 

+1 on the Oscar. is there any new, generally-available HX that one would pick the Silvia over?

 
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jnboone
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Posted Sat Jun 16, 2012, 9:26pm
Subject: Re: newb
 

Thought I was set on the NS Oscar, but have been reading a lot on the Breville DB.  Either easier for a newb?  I'd like to get more than 5 years out of it.  Hope to never buy another (trying to do it right the first time!).  Not enough difference in the prices for me to worry about.  Suggestions?
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Posted Sun Jun 17, 2012, 4:33am
Subject: Re: newb
 

jnboone Said:

Thought I was set on the NS Oscar, but have been reading a lot on the Breville DB.  Either easier for a newb?  I'd like to get more than 5 years out of it.  Hope to never buy another (trying to do it right the first time!).  Not enough difference in the prices for me to worry about.  Suggestions?

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Well, while I'm a big proponent of the Breville Dual Boiler, if you want to be sure you can get more than 5 years out of it, the BDB isn't really an option. I'm not saying this because the build quality is sub-par; I'm saying it because of the fact that it hasn't been around long enough to stave off the suspicion that the low price point is at the cost of longevity.

On the other hand, the BDB is very easy to use and make adjustments. But no espresso machine is going to be very easy to use until you feel comfortable making espresso on a regular basis (unless we're talking superautos with one-touch buttons that do everything for you).

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