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ryguy76
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Espresso: BES900 Dual Boiler
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Posted Mon Jul 2, 2012, 1:19pm
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

Your cleaning seems like a over kill. I have not had the slipping problem, but my machine is fairly new.

I believe it's similar to what Phil McKnight from Breville does.  Perhaps it's overkill, who knows.

I've never had any issues with slipping until recently.  I've owned the machine for several months now.  My pressure during extraction is usually around 8BAR, as my OPV was calibrated too low.

I'm actually using less coffee than I have on average too, so the pressure should definitely not increased recently.   hmmmmm.
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BrianG
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Posted Mon Jul 2, 2012, 3:02pm
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

ryguy76 Said:

I've never had any issues with slipping until recently.  I've owned the machine for several months now.

Posted July 2, 2012 link

Glad you brought this up, I'm in the same boat. Had my machine for about 5 months and have started having slipping issues. I actually had the bottomless PF pop off completely on one occasion, and have caught it in time on a few others. I've been in touch with Breville, they've been interested in helping but so far want to point the finger to my basket (straight walled Synesso-style).

I have to really crank the PF around tight, to the 4 or 5 o'clock position to prevent the issue. Also, it seems worse with my naked PF than the spouted. I'm now too paranoid to steam milk while a shot is extracting. While I really love this machine I have to say this problem has cooled my enthusiasm a bit. 6 years with an E61 machine prior to the BDB and never had an issue like this.
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Posted Mon Jul 2, 2012, 3:43pm
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

Does anyone know where I can get a BDB naked? Seems like everyone is out of stock.
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JJC
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Posted Mon Jul 2, 2012, 3:59pm
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

There aren't any available, but they are due this month or so.
Lots of us are waiting.
As soon as they are on the Breville.USA site someone will post it.
(After they order one for themselves, of course.)
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Drip: Chemex, Doppelwandinger...
Roaster: Behmor, Hearthware Gourmet
Posted Mon Jul 2, 2012, 5:28pm
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

JJC Said:

There aren't any available, but they are due this month or so.
Lots of us are waiting.
As soon as they are on the Breville.USA site someone will post it.
(After they order one for themselves, of course.)

Posted July 2, 2012 link

Or make one yourself.
I modified an LM portafilter.  I had to to Scace the machine.
It took some reshaping the of the lugs, grinding around the entire circumference (as the edge of the portafilter can't be past the edge of the basket) and grinding down part of the handle.  All in all, not hard.  It probably took about 30 minutes, grinding a little at a time and test fitting.

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old442
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Posted Mon Jul 2, 2012, 5:29pm
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

Another angle.

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caramelcrema
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Posted Tue Jul 3, 2012, 9:58pm
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

Old442, do you have any videos of your bottomless in action?
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cafeespresso
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Posted Thu Jul 5, 2012, 6:23am
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

I've been considering this machine since it was released...

I've owned an Expobar Office Pulser for over 7+ years, and it has served me well and it has been virtually trouble free.

After dealing with temp surfing, and some of the challenges of HX..I have settled on a Double Boiler design for my next machine.

Here is my score card for the Breville:
Pros
- Price +++
- Design +++
- Soft Support + (so far support seems to be decent from Breville and the community have embraced the machine)

Cons
- Long term reliability unknowns -
- Ability to descale on my own ---
- Self Service -- (ability to change parts on my own, self-support without having to ship the machine, etc.)

At this time, my wife is open to the upgrade idea. I'm also considering the Vivaldi II, but the Breville is the strongest contender. Whatever I buy will have to last me 7-8 years.

The tough decision for me is on whether I should wait a bit more for a Vivaldi II.......Any other data or feedback on my considerations would be appreciated.
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zedex
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Espresso: Spaz v2
Grinder: vario
Posted Thu Jul 5, 2012, 7:34am
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

The V2 is bulletproof,plumbable and user serviceable. The Breville is none of those. Also. The vario looks better with the v2 if you get the black model.
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biochemgawd
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Location: Canada
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Espresso: BDB
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Posted Thu Jul 5, 2012, 10:00am
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

I have owned two Breville DB machines (home and office) paired with Vario for 7 months now. They consistently produce wonderful espresso and have great usability features. If you can get them as I did for $900 each, it is difficult not to recommend getting one.

Of course a $2300 machine is going to be better. If you have the budget and you need it to last 7-8 years, a proven manufacturer of solid, serviceable machines is going to be a good choice. But personally, I will be very happy if my machines last 5 years, then I get to upgrade ;-)

John
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