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notcosi
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Posted Thu Jul 12, 2012, 6:16am
Subject: new gaggia classic and portafilter trouble
 

I bought a new gaggia classic and had trouble with the perfect crema baskets, so I bought a classic basket . it fits the porta filter if I click it in but I am having trouble then attaching the portafilter - it seems to need a lot of force. I tried the perfect crema basket too and it seems to be the same. The porta filter fits fine without the baskets! Does anyone know if  I  need to buy a different portafilter?
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Posted Thu Jul 12, 2012, 7:54pm
Subject: Re: new gaggia classic and portafilter trouble
 

You shouldn't have trouble if that's the OEM Portafilter that comes with the Gaggia.
Perhaps, insert the PF body MINUS the basket into the group and lock it in, loosen and repeat maybe 10-15 times.
The "ears" of the PF may just need to be worn down a we bit.

Next, do the same with your classic basket inserted into the PF.

Truly, though, this should really not be an issue.
Could the portafilter gasket not be fully seated?
If not, the above steps should fix that.

 
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Posted Sat Jul 14, 2012, 6:54am
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Agreed basically w/ the above.

I wouldn't expect a problem with the ears on the basket needing to be worn down but it's not a bad idea, maybe check for burrs around them.

The PF should fit fine on its own but adding a basket raises the overall thickness there and makes things harder to put in place. It's to be expected but only up to a point.

When I've dealt with repairing used machines I have to be sure to get the right gasket thickness or that kind of problem can develop but I wouldn't expect any issues with a new machine. Strange.

Some force is to be expected, it won't be easy to put in place, it needs to seal back ~165 psi or so of very hot water. But it shouldn't be *too* hard either. Also keep in mind that you don't have to go much further around than just having the handle pointing towards you. Somewhere between the 5 and 6 o'clock positions, closer to 6.
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Posted Sat Jul 14, 2012, 11:39am
Subject: Re: new gaggia classic and portafilter trouble
 

sound advice from previous posts, it would seem that the gasket just isnt seated properly.

another trick to try is this,

put the basket into the PF

offer it upto the group head but only insert one of the ears, so inessence it has half in half out.

pull it round as you would if it was seated properly, dont go crazy, just same force as you would normally use

remove the PF, and do the same with the other ear of the PF.

This should force the group gasket up into the group head applying force to one side at a time.

its amazing what difference a group shim can do if fitted underneith the gasket, although i wouldnt expect to find this in a new machine??

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Posted Sat Jul 21, 2012, 6:09am
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Thanks all. Have played about with it and your suggestions helped - also If I put less than 2 measures of coffee in the basket this helps. Just maybe needs a bit of ageing!
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Posted Sat Jul 21, 2012, 10:41am
Subject: Re: new gaggia classic and portafilter trouble
 

notcosi Said:

If I put less than 2 measures of coffee in the basket this helps. Just maybe needs a bit of ageing!

Posted July 21, 2012 link

Are you overfilling the basket and having grinds hit the screen?  That would certainly make the PF difficult to engage.

 
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Posted Sun Jul 22, 2012, 10:30am
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I think that may have been most of the problem... what a noob!
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Posted Sun Jul 22, 2012, 9:10pm
Subject: Re: new gaggia classic and portafilter trouble
 

The tamped dry puck should not reach the screen or screen screw.  When expanded after a double pull, your wet puck will then probably just touch the center screw and you will tell that if you see a slight impression in the center of the puck.

 
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