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FrankyD
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Posted Sat Jul 28, 2012, 8:40pm
Subject: Re: Is it possible to get good results from a crappy machine?
 

Everywhere I've read, people would advise getting a top end grinder (or whatever is in your budget), and the machine second.

From what I firmly, you can have the best grinds and make decent espresso. On the other hand, you can have a good machine, and crappy espresso.

Working on a small budget, I've found hand mills to be highly worth it, provided you actually have the patience to sit there and work it. Although I can't make a valid argument for an electric conical burr grinder being of the same quality at the same pricepoint as a Kyocera or Porlex, as examples. Capresso Infinity 560 anyone?
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zedex
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Posted Sat Jul 28, 2012, 10:27pm
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If i had $250 ish to spend on a grinder i would buy a pharos hand grinder .     $400 ? i would spend an extra 50 and get a vario. Pharos apparently grind very very well.
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MikeReilly
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Posted Sun Jul 29, 2012, 1:18pm
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Even if I had $400 I'd still get the Pharos and pocket the rest.
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zedex
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Posted Sun Jul 29, 2012, 2:40pm
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The pharos has a huge PITA factor that i could not handle. :) Otherwise i am with ya.
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