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acctingguy
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Posted Wed Aug 8, 2012, 5:24pm
Subject: One last question!
 

Just a quick "which would you choose" question...

I CRAVE mochas and my "benchmark" is starbucks...yes, I know, charbucks, but I like it :p

I have a Vario grinder and I'm using good beans


Option #1 = Moka pot + electric milk frother

Option #2 = Mypressi Twist v2 + electric milk frother

I'm guessing which most will pick, but just curious.
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Posted Wed Aug 8, 2012, 11:27pm
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Option 2, because with a moka pot you cannot really make espresso, its brewing pressure being too low (around 1.5 bar) and the water temperature being too high (above 200°F).

 
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Posted Thu Aug 9, 2012, 7:53am
Subject: Re: One last question!
 

Think the Mypressi is discontinued in the U.S., they ceased operations and service for it a few weeks/months ago. But even if that hadn't happened, if it were me I would go with the Moka pot. Nothing against the Mypressi I just don't want to deal with it's heating up process and the cartridges, for once in awhile use or camping etc it'd be fine, but I wouldn't want to use it every day.... others though so. The Moka won't give you true espresso, but it's pretty damn close and has it's own uniqueness vs espresso, pour over etc. Get a larger volume easier too so that's good, use that for your mocha's, lattes etc. I don't think it really has to do with temp as some beans like higher temps, made espresso today at 203.

Hard to beat a Moka pot for the money. Here in South FL it's how real Cuban coffee is made all over, which is normally with bustelo or pilon b/c they both pack a wallop. But I've tried it with other fresh ground beans and it was awesome, last time I had some I think it was a Paradise roast and was damn good.
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Posted Thu Aug 9, 2012, 8:00am
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Considering that you're going to mostly be hiding the flavor of the coffee behind chocolate syrup and milk, I don't really think it makes a whole lot of difference. Mokka pot coffee always tastes burnt to me, and Cafe Cubaņo is an excuse for consuming the large amounts of sugar that make burnt coffee palatable, so for your stated desires, go with the mokka pot. Just don't call is espresso.

Maybe I'm sounding a little bitter (get it? "bitter") because I don't use sugar in anything. On the other hand, as long as you keep putting sweet stuff in the coffee, it makes it that much harder to appreciate coffee for itself. Which, for me, is what espresso is mostly about.
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Posted Thu Aug 9, 2012, 8:06am
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GVDub Said:

Considering that you're going to mostly be hiding the flavor of the coffee behind chocolate syrup and milk, I don't really think it makes a whole lot of difference. Mokka pot coffee always tastes burnt to me, and Cafe Cubaņo is an excuse for consuming the large amounts of sugar that make burnt coffee palatable, so for your stated desires, go with the mokka pot. Just don't call is espresso.

Maybe I'm sounding a little bitter (get it? "bitter") because I don't use sugar in anything. On the other hand, as long as you keep putting sweet stuff in the coffee, it makes it that much harder to appreciate coffee for itself. Which, for me, is what espresso is mostly about.

Posted August 9, 2012 link

Bustelo and Pilon (for Cuban and what many use for Moka in general since they come in those preground bricks), both have that strong burnt taste by themselves, but you can use other beans/roast no prob, I used a Paradise roast in Moka last time and it was awesome and full of flavor.

MyPressi ceased operations and service for USA also
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Posted Thu Aug 9, 2012, 9:56am
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Yea, I didn't know MyPressi went out of business. Makes that NOT an option now. Too bad!

I'm going to Fred Meyers and buying that Capresso Milk Frother and a Moka Pot. If I don't like the Moka Pot, I'll just return it since Fred's has a nice return policy.

If that doesn't work then I'll just buy one of their espresso machines they have there.

A good friend of mine has an $80 Krupps he bought and he made me hot mocha with just regular hershery's chocolate syrup and a hand driven milk frother and the mocha was pretty darn good.

Since I like the taste of a SB mocha, many of you have said that should be easy to replicate since the syrup and milk drown out the espresso so "elite" gear isn't a huge deal for me.

I have some good beans at home and a Vario grinder, so I'm set there. Going to buy the SB mocha powder off Ebay, so I should be good to go!

Thanks again for all the comments/advice.
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Posted Thu Aug 9, 2012, 10:08am
Subject: Re: One last question!
 

acctingguy Said:

Yea, I didn't know MyPressi went out of business. Makes that NOT an option now. Too bad!

I'm going to Fred Meyers and buying that Capresso Milk Frother and a Moka Pot. If I don't like the Moka Pot, I'll just return it since Fred's has a nice return policy.

If that doesn't work then I'll just buy one of their espresso machines they have there.

A good friend of mine has an $80 Krupps he bought and he made me hot mocha with just regular hershery's chocolate syrup and a hand driven milk frother and the mocha was pretty darn good.

Since I like the taste of a SB mocha, many of you have said that should be easy to replicate since the syrup and milk drown out the espresso so "elite" gear isn't a huge deal for me.

I have some good beans at home and a Vario grinder, so I'm set there. Going to buy the SB mocha powder off Ebay, so I should be good to go!

Thanks again for all the comments/advice.

Posted August 9, 2012 link

You'll have to just play with grind initially to figure a good range for the Moka, usually it should be pretty close/similar to an espresso grind... so you can adjust from there if it's too bitter etc. Some use a drip grind but that's way to coarse imo and you'll end up with a weak cup. Plenty of vids on youtube you can check out for the Moka to see them in use. If you want to compare grind, you can grab a little brick of pilon or bustelo at a store, usually only a few bucks for a brick. That grind and finer for espresso should be the range your in to play with, if you notice it "choked" or too much sediment back off from there.

Also Moka's come in different "cup" sizes and you never want to go more or less than what they recommend for amount of grinds (i.e. a bigger Moka and using less grinds). And the cups are normal espresso sizes so a 1 cup Moka would be like a 2oz shot of espresso, and a 9 cup would be like nine 2oz shots). So look at the different sizes and figure what you might want. Bunch of models on Amazon so you can check.
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Posted Thu Aug 9, 2012, 11:31am
Subject: Re: One last question!
 

I was where you are right now just 10-11 months ago.  If you make the leap, know that your tastes will probably change. I was amazed at how fast my palette changed and how much I now appreciate a good shot.  I still can't do it with out milk but I can tell the difference.   But I am down from 12oz milk to 3-4 oz in less than 4 months.  I would not be surprised if in a few months more I would be able to drink a straight shot.

 
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