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PVCoffee
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Posted Sat Aug 18, 2012, 10:03pm
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hi everyone i was just wondering what some good espresso machines are?
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Posted Sat Aug 18, 2012, 10:43pm
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PVCoffee Said:

hi everyone i was just wondering what some good espresso machines are?

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I have been using the Breville dual boiler great bang for your buck with the Breville smart grinder with this set up makes great coffee, I got sick and tired of paying good money for bad coffee with this and fresh roasted beans fantastic . Look at the review on here.
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Posted Sat Aug 18, 2012, 10:43pm
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Your question is a bit like "what form of transportation is good?".  That depends on where you are going and what you need to carry with you.

You have to give us things like what you like to drink, how often and how much you want to spend.

 
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Posted Sat Aug 18, 2012, 10:43pm
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The Speedster by Kees van der Westen, the La Marzocco GS/3, the Faema E61 Legend S1, the Elektra Sixties Deliziosa T1, the Rocket Espresso R58 to name but a few.  ;-)

But seriously, those machines all cost several thousand bucks. Your question is like asking "What are some good cars?". The answer might be Mercedes, Porsche, Ferrari, Bentley, Audi ... What I'm trying so say is, it all depends on your personal needs and your budget.

Give us the answer on the following questions and me might tell you some good espresso machines for your purpose.
  • How many cups a day, and how many cups per session is the machine supposed to brew?
  • What kind of coffee drinks will be consumed: mainly espresso or also espresso based milk drinks like cappuccino or latte?
  • What's the budget? Does that include a grinder and accessories?

Reading this article on How to Buy an Espresso Machine might also be very helpful.

 
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Posted Sat Aug 18, 2012, 10:55pm
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Haha, I beat you Nobby!

The most important part of any espresso set up is the grinder.  You must budget for the grinder.   At the starter low end you will spend more for the grinder than the machine.

Those machines Nobby named are huge bucks - like starting at 3k and going up. My set up cost about 1k with me buying a used machine.  You can make do with cheaper but if you are in the less than $100 range you probably will not get espresso unless you are really lucky on craigslist.  $300 is doable with used machine and a hand grinder.  $500-700 is a good starter budget.   I started out wanting to spend about $100 on a good coffee maker that could do espresso and researched my way up to a $300 budget.... then researched some more and was at 500 as the top of the top end. Then I ended up spending 10 times my starting budget.  But I have not wanted to upgrade in 6 months and I can probably get 10+ years out of my machine.

 
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Posted Sun Aug 19, 2012, 1:55am
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Coffeenoobie Said:

Haha, I beat you Nobby!

The most important part of any espresso set up is the grinder.  You must budget for the grinder.   At the starter low end you will spend more for the grinder than the machine ...

Posted August 18, 2012 link

Well, Coffeenoobie, "zwei Doofe, ein Gedanke" as we say in Germany, which translates to "two fools, one idea". LOL

What your posting is very true, of course, but I'm getting the idea that PVCoffee is after something else: click here and also here.

 
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Posted Sun Aug 19, 2012, 2:27am
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Indeed.

His original post referred to his website...and reeks of commercial advertising.
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Posted Sun Aug 19, 2012, 2:37am
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Well, right now his questions posted on CG are anything but good advertisement. I wouldn't buy at or recommend a seller who obviously appears to not even know his trade.

 
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Posted Sun Aug 19, 2012, 11:59am
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Oh no! We responded honestly to a dishonest person.

 
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Posted Sun Aug 19, 2012, 8:48pm
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So this fellow runs a website and on that site he sells coffee-related items including espresso machines, and he is asking us to name some good machines.
I'd rather buy a used car from Richard Nixon.

 
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