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glcoffee
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Posted Thu Sep 20, 2012, 2:12pm
Subject: Sometimes the cover of the book is more important than its content
 

I have a friend that is looking to get her first espresso machine.   She came to me for recommendation and I shown her various HX machines and their pros/cons.  However, one criteria she has given me is that the machine would have to look "pretty" sitting in the kitchen and not a clunk of stainless steel (referencing my Alex Duetto II).

Price range is below $3k USD, counter space/height is adequate.   Extra water source is scarce so Plumb-In only is not an option.

What are some of your CG recommendations?  Again, high emphasis on "pretty."

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Posted Thu Sep 20, 2012, 3:19pm
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I think you're brave to take this on !

Taste in the visual aspect of things is very personal, and unfortunately most domestic sized machines that actually work reasonably well are ugly  looking (in my view) stainless steel boxes despite some manufacturers trying to fancy them up a bit with a few curves.

You might show her the La Spaziale Mini Vivaldi.  I don't know if it looks "pretty" to her, but at least it is different in appearance, and has a good reputation. If I were buying today, it would be one of only 2 machines I'd be considering (the plumb in version though).

Some of the Elektra machines are a bit different.  Would she like something like the miniverticale ? (bit, OTT for some tastes, but you never know).  The Barlume is well out of her range for several reasons, but I've always like the retro looks.

Before everyone else chimes in, I'm sure you will already have told her to reserve part of the budget for a competent grinder, and choosing that is gonna be tricky too  ;o)
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Posted Thu Sep 20, 2012, 4:30pm
Subject: Re: Sometimes the cover of the book is more important than its content
 

glcoffee Said:

I have a friend that is looking to get her first espresso machine... However, one criteria she has given me is that the machine would have to look "pretty" sitting in the kitchen and not a clunk of stainless steel...

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I think you're brave to take this on !
Taste in the visual aspect of things is very personal...

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No kidding... My first thought was, "I bet she's single."   ;-)

 
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Posted Thu Sep 20, 2012, 4:46pm
Subject: Re: Sometimes the cover of the book is more important than its content
 

Haha ....not.  Looks are important in your nicely done kitchen.

 
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Posted Fri Sep 21, 2012, 10:13am
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These are both more rounded.  I don't know what machine you showed the photo of but this is as close as I could think off.  I think you can get the sides of the Bezzera in colors. If not they could be painted to match her kitchen.  I want to paint my Oscar to match mine.

 
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Posted Fri Sep 21, 2012, 10:17am
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I'd recommend she look at Rocket Expresso's Giotto Evoluzione or Premium models.  Rocket excels at both the internals (content) and the external styling of their machines.  So, she can have the best of both worlds.
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Posted Fri Sep 21, 2012, 11:09am
Subject: Re: Sometimes the cover of the book is more important than its content
 

I recently bought a Rocket Evoluzione Giotto V2 for its looks and functionality.  I think it is a beautiful machine.  It looks well put together inside as well.
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Posted Fri Sep 21, 2012, 6:32pm
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If she doesn't like the chrome look her choices are limited.  I bought the R58 for it's features and it's esthetic.  I personnaly love the chrome and e61 group head.  

A musica from Simonelli?

Or maybe she should buy a nespresso?  :)
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Posted Sat Sep 22, 2012, 10:33am
Subject: Re: Sometimes the cover of the book is more important than its content
 

I'll second the NS Musica, maybe even the LUX if she doesn't like the black trim.  There is also the Elektra Microcasa Semiautomatica, its not my taste but I can appreciate what its got going on.  You might want to go with a Macap/Elektra grinder, they are sort of the only ones I can think of that could be associated with the word "decorative".

A really nice Modern set up would be a Maximatic and a HGOne (pending availability) or Versalab (ditto).  Not everyone's cup of tea in term of use, but very clean and considered and very compact.  More than a little bit over budget when purchased new however.
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Posted Sat Sep 22, 2012, 11:21am
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I like the musica but it eats up her budget.

 
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