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Posted Sat Oct 27, 2012, 1:41pm
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Thanks for the update Chris.

I wonder what a little more $ translates into. I am also curious if this will be plumbed only. Time will answer these questions.
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Posted Sat Oct 27, 2012, 4:19pm
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chriscoffee Said:

I have been working with La Spaziale for a couple of years on this machine.

Posted October 27, 2012 link

I think that it is fantastic that a vendor such as yourself is working directly with a manufacturer as well known as them. I think it is very rare to see this in any industry, where the vendors have a role in the engineering process of a
product. I can't say how much I would love to be in your shoes. In saying that, perhaps my own personal lack of knowledge and experience is a detriment to me at this time, but perhaps that may change in the future.

chriscoffee Said:

For example I hated the previous timer now it is built in

Posted October 27, 2012 link

One of the biggest concerns I had about the timer was that the batteries were soldered in. (At least from what I've read on topics relating to the topic.)  I've seen soldered in batteries in computers, vintage video games,
pinball machines and other electronic devices and the same damn thing always happens. The battery gets old, starts leaking onto the PCB, corroding and damaging it. Worse case scenario, the leakage damages an adjacent
circuit and causes a failure. I can understand that from an engineering point of view that it costs money to put in a battery compartment, but it all comes down to the longevity of the device, right? I hate soldering in new batteries.

chriscoffee Said:

I am a big Apple guy and I like touch screen application so to do the Italians.

Posted October 27, 2012 link

For those on the thread who are concerned about the longevity of touch screens, consider the abuse that the touch screen on multifunction copier/printer/fax/scanner devices take every day in the busy routine of an office.
I've seen people poke them with pens, bash on them repeatedly and just generally see heavy use. I'm sure that La Spaziale will spec out a LCD touch screen which is somewhat similar to the ones that Ricoh or Xerox use. In which
case, if my own practical experience is any indication, the possibility of failure of one of these touch screens in a home or light commercial environment would be very low and shouldn't impact the reliability of the machine at all.

I know this may be a little off-topic, but IMO Apple designs some absolutely beautiful hardware. It's not necessarily the best bang for the buck, (Again IMO) but Apple knows industrial design and that reflects in their products. The
Macbook Air and the iPhones/iPods are works of art. I'll admit that I'm more a PC guy, but I can also appreciate the beauty of a nicely designed case. Like the Fractal Design Arc Mini or the Thermaltake Level 10 series. A beautiful
computer case does not make a computer any more powerful, but it certainly does make it easier to look at.  

chriscoffee Said:

I am including with each machine a Simm card reader and writer that simply plugs into the front of the machine.

Posted October 27, 2012 link

Good idea. I think I would draw the line at an Ethernet Port, LOL! :-) I think this would make things interesting because it would allow the less experienced Barista to try settings which a more experienced Barista would know.
I can see it now.. People uploading brew profiles to a forum for other people to try out, comment and to see what they think. Coming from a 15-year IT background, I actually find this idea very exciting.

I personally love the idea of an experienced roaster handing out cheap promo USB keys for use with these La Spaziale machines for their blends. I can procure promotional USB keys for less than 20 cents each,
seems like a very small expense when someone is paying $16-$20/lb for a bag of beans.

chriscoffee Said:

you will be able to go to my site and down load the latest version of the software and upload it to your machine.

Posted October 27, 2012 link

In my particular case, that would save me a 340 mile drive, since the nearest La Spaziale dealer to me is 170 miles away in Edmonton.

Thanks for your input Chris.

 
Garbage In, Garbage Out, for every step of the process. From Beans to grinder, grounds to machine, coffee to cup.
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Posted Sat Oct 27, 2012, 6:30pm
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So. It sounds like software upgrades and cosmetics. The body of the machine looks the same other than brushed SS and glossy sides. I bet the drip tray is identical .
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Posted Sat Oct 27, 2012, 7:22pm
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zedex Said:

So. It sounds like software upgrades and cosmetics. The body of the machine looks the same other than brushed SS and glossy sides. I bet the drip tray is identical .

Posted October 27, 2012 link

Let's not make it sound like a simple cosmetic change. While I agree the plumbing will stay the same, the upgrades they made (modern electronics, interface and cosmetics) are all the machine really needed to put it in a class of its own. They aren't about to change metal jigs or plastic molds they have already spent thousands on. If they did, it would take forever for this family business to recoupe their investment.

I'm really impressed they continue to improve on this great design. I think it's an awesome machine and would be an EASY first pick for me ....if I already didn't have one (the old one that is). :-(
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Posted Sat Oct 27, 2012, 8:02pm
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Yes. Its good news because if i did upgrade down the road (if i got a decent $ for mine) my drip tray would fit in the machine. You never know when upgradeitus will hit .
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Posted Sun Oct 28, 2012, 4:22pm
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I wonder what the price of upgrading would be. I don't believe it can't be done.
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Posted Sun Oct 28, 2012, 4:37pm
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Yea. I don't believe it either. What i do believe though is it would be cost prohibitive .Once someone gets there mitts on one we will know for sure. But i looks to me like its all software upgrades. It would be an easy swap other than dremelling the front panel.
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Posted Mon Oct 29, 2012, 5:01am
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I would say "all electrical" upgrades. Probably means replacing the black box and wiring harness. I probably replace the whole front cover which includes the LCD panel. Likely in the $500 range for everything, but I don't see any show stoppers here.
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Posted Mon Oct 29, 2012, 7:51am
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+ usb cutout on the lower panel. The front panel wont work on our machine as the steam knob looks horizontal and on the v2 its on an angle.  It would be great do have an accurate timer, as my timer lost 1 hour today. Im thinking it was programmed incorrectly to allow time change today instead of November 4.
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Posted Mon Oct 29, 2012, 4:20pm
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zedex Said:

+ usb cutout on the lower panel. The front panel wont work on our machine as the steam knob looks horizontal and on the v2 its on an angle.  It would be great do have an accurate timer, as my timer lost 1 hour today. Im thinking it was programmed incorrectly to allow time change today instead of November 4.

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I can tuck the USB connection inside.

I have the Mini. I'm assuming the steam lever placement will be unchanged.
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