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Posted Thu Nov 1, 2012, 7:42am
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Preciso is an entry level espresso grinder and a big step down from the Vario in so far as grind quality is concerned (and therefore, quality in the cup).  If you can afford a Vario, you shouldn't (just my opinion) be looking at the Preciso.  If I remember correctly, you were earlier looking at a Vario or Super Jolly, and unless your budget has changed, I would suggest sticking with that class of grinder.

 
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Posted Thu Nov 1, 2012, 8:10am
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Yeah I'll probably end up with the Vario. May have to space things out so doesn't hurt my wallet as much :)
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Posted Thu Nov 1, 2012, 8:20am
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Yeah, I hear that.  There's also the spouse factor.  I'm trying to decide if my wife will notice if I get an HG One grinder.  I've just about got the money set aside for one (and it'll kind of hide under the cabinets in the corner of my coffee bar, where she's less like to spot it - if only it didn't look so different from my Macaps), but even so, she'd probably go off on me for throwing our money aroung unnecessarily, as she's pretty darn happy with the lattes I make her as is.

 
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Posted Thu Nov 1, 2012, 8:52am
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There are refurbished ones on the company site every week.  I would hate to buy a grinder today then realize I should have gotten another one tomorrow.  But I understand budget.  All the more reason to get him to come down on his price. He has had that thing for sale for at least a month.  I would try to get it as close to 400 as you can and put that towards the grinder. Also did not want to explain why I choose badly and wanted a different one to the husband.

 
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Posted Thu Nov 1, 2012, 8:58am
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Haha yeah. I looked at the site but they don't ship grinders to Canada unfortunately :(

I'll just have to keep shopping. In the meantime if I really need it I can get my beans ground by a local shop - not ideal but could work for now

Yeah I checked with the guy and he is flexible with the price so hopefully he is willing to go much lower. I think I should be able to at least get it to $450.
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Posted Thu Nov 1, 2012, 9:08am
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khiyasu Said:

In the meantime if I really need it I can get my beans ground by a local shop - not ideal but could work for now.

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Not really, actually.

Babbie's rule of 15s:

green coffee beans should be roasted within 15 months (or they go stale)
roasted coffee beans should be gound within 15 days (or they go stale)
ground coffee beans should be used within 15 minutes (or they go stale)

This is especailly true for espresso.  Unless you live on top of or next door to your bean source, there's no way you'll get them home in time to use them before they stale.  Think about cutting an apple open and leaving it on the counter.  How long are you going to still want to eat it?

If you plan to save up for your grinder, you'd be better off getting a Hario Skerton for the interim. (http://www.harioskerton.com/  ~$40 from several sources)

 
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Posted Thu Nov 1, 2012, 9:11am
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Is this one of the best hand grinders?
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Posted Thu Nov 1, 2012, 9:15am
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khiyasu Said:

Is this one of the best hand grinders?

Posted November 1, 2012 link

Hard as heck to beat for the money. It could be argued that the OE Pharos the best hand grinder for espresso but a great deal more costly.

 
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Posted Thu Nov 1, 2012, 9:18am
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It would make more sense to me to get a 40 dollar hand grinder that you can use when traveling or camping than 2 different electric grinders.

 
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Posted Thu Nov 1, 2012, 9:30am
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Yeah that makes sense. I think it may be a good idea to start with a blade grinder while I save up for the right burr grinder. So you would recommend the Hario Skerton to go with the Oscar for now? I don't mind paying a slight premium for a really good quality blade grinder while waiting for the right price to come up for the burr
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