The Skerton is a great deal. Better hand grinders definitely exist, such as the OE Lido, OE Pharos, HG One (currently in the pre-order stage), and the Portaspresso Rosco. Of course, all of those are much more expensive than the Hario (and much better quality too). Porlex Grinders are more similar in price and quality to the Hario. Also, though I mentioned the Skerton, they make a slim model too. Last thing to mention (from my perspective) regarding the hand grinders is I can only speak from hands-on experience with the Lido. The rest of my hand grinder knowledge is from reading reviews, engineering threads and comments from experienced users about most of the other grinders. I did some pretty extensive research into the Pharos and Lido before choosing the Lido, and have read quite a bit about the HG One design...only recently learning of the Rosco (they're located in Australia).
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calblacksmith Moderator Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 7,317 Location: Riverside, Ca, U.S.A. Expertise: I live coffee
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Posted Thu Nov 1, 2012, 9:50am Subject: Re: Need assistance with semi-automatics
Yeah that makes sense. I think it may be a good idea to start with a blade grinder while I save up for the right burr grinder. So you would recommend the Hario Skerton to go with the Oscar for now? I don't mind paying a slight premium for a really good quality blade grinder while waiting for the right price to come up for the burr
I think you intendex to say manual grinder not blade grinder. They are two very different things. While a good manual grinder can grind for espresso, a blade grinder never will be able to do it, they are way too incostiant for espresso.
If you are pulling a lot of shots a hand grinder might get old in a hurry. As to other brewing methods, I donKt do many anymore though I have the equipment to do so. For "regular" coffee served to guests, I just make americanos and serve them. I have not had any complaints and one setup is all I need for nearly everything at home. YMMV!
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khiyasu Senior Member Joined: 30 Oct 2012 Posts: 25 Location: Squamish, BC Expertise: I like coffee
Posted Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:06am Subject: Re: Need assistance with semi-automatics
I don't think I'll be making too many espressos to start out with but would like to get a good quality hand grinder that will make me good espressos to start out with. How much more expensive are the OE Lido, etc?
Posted Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:52am Subject: Re: Need assistance with semi-automatics
BTW, my Porlex Tall works OK for espresso (chokes the machine 2 clicks from the finest setting and has some gaps in adjustment, but maybe less so than a Virtuoso) and can be used with an electric drill in place of the handle to produce a ghetto electric grinder ;) I've used it a few times to grind for decaf espresso, and it travels with me for Aeropress use.
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