darthcani Senior Member Joined: 13 Nov 2012 Posts: 5 Location: Argentina Expertise: Just starting
Posted Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:41am Subject: Hi from Argentina firsts expresso machine help
Hi everyone, my name is Diego from Argentina i want to some recommendation about my first purchase, in my country i don't have too many option in budget express machines, i have three candidates
Coffeenoobie Senior Member Joined: 11 Dec 2011 Posts: 2,320 Location: PNW Expertise: I like coffee
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Posted Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:21pm Subject: Re: Hi from Argentina firsts expresso machine help
Not wild about any of them but I would probably get the Poema at the bottom if that is my only choice. The combo machine will never have as good a grinder. You need a good grinder. And if you want to get better you will probably need to depressurize the basket on the saeco. I would leave it pressurized till you get a good grinder.
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darthcani Senior Member Joined: 13 Nov 2012 Posts: 5 Location: Argentina Expertise: Just starting
Posted Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:28pm Subject: Re: Hi from Argentina firsts expresso machine help
Coffeenoobie Said:
Not wild about any of them but I would probably get the Poema at the bottom if that is my only choice. The combo machine will never have as good a grinder. You need a good grinder. And if you want to get better you will probably need to depressurize the basket on the saeco. I would leave it pressurized till you get a good grinder.
Thanks is extensive guide, later i must read it, sadly in my country there inst much offer in espresso budget home machine =( in order of 300 u$ which is the best option ?
Coffeenoobie Senior Member Joined: 11 Dec 2011 Posts: 2,320 Location: PNW Expertise: I like coffee
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Posted Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:46pm Subject: Re: Hi from Argentina firsts expresso machine help
My machine is a used low volume commercial machine that I got for under $500. I can get a very similar machine to that saeco for about 100 used or 200 refurbished. I was hoping you could find a nicer used machine but I live somewhere that lots of people buy espresso machines and don't like/use them or coffee shops/carts/stands go out of business. I know you are probably not so lucky. But you could still find a treasure in someone's barn or attic if you are lucky.
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Markarian Senior Member Joined: 27 Jun 2012 Posts: 474 Location: Seattle Area Expertise: I love coffee
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Posted Tue Nov 13, 2012, 1:49pm Subject: Re: Hi from Argentina firsts expresso machine help
Hola, Diego. The Poemia is going to give you the closest experience to a real cafe espresso out of the three, as it's a pump semiautomatic. I have owned several of these Saeco machines and they are good for beginners, provided you use fresh coffee and decent grinder. At your budget, you might want to start with a hand grinder, like the Hario Skerton.
darthcani Senior Member Joined: 13 Nov 2012 Posts: 5 Location: Argentina Expertise: Just starting
Posted Tue Nov 13, 2012, 2:33pm Subject: Re: Hi from Argentina firsts expresso machine help
Markarian Said:
Hola, Diego. The Poemia is going to give you the closest experience to a real cafe espresso out of the three, as it's a pump semiautomatic. I have owned several of these Saeco machines and they are good for beginners, provided you use fresh coffee and decent grinder. At your budget, you might want to start with a hand grinder, like the Hario Skerton.
Hi thanks for your post, when you say Saeco you refer to the second i post ? " via veneto combi deluxe " ? because the first " poemia" don't have a grinder, between Philips Poemia and Saeco veneto which is best balanced choice ?
Coffeenoobie Senior Member Joined: 11 Dec 2011 Posts: 2,320 Location: PNW Expertise: I like coffee
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Posted Tue Nov 13, 2012, 4:45pm Subject: Re: Hi from Argentina firsts expresso machine help
if you read the how to buy an espresso machine article I linked you, you would understand the difference between the 2 and why we like the simpler one over the one with the built in grinder.
Coffeenoobie
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