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D4F
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Espresso: Gaggia Classic PID
Grinder: Baratza Forte-AP
Posted Sun Nov 18, 2012, 2:31pm
Subject: Re: First week with Gaggia Classic/Baratza Preciso
 

Parts ship free, so get the wand.

http://www.espressoparts.com/R_1054

Grind a little finer and shoot for about 50 ml in 25-30 sec and it should be better yet.  Sounds like you are enjoying your Gaggia, and yourself.

 
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MochaJoe
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Location: Omaha, NE
Expertise: Just starting

Espresso: Gaggia Classic
Grinder: Baratza Preciso
Posted Sun Nov 18, 2012, 2:46pm
Subject: Re: First week with Gaggia Classic/Baratza Preciso
 

Ill tinker with the micro-steps next. I actually bought that part and installed 3 days ago...I get great pressure now, but technique is still flawed. I watched the vid on using soap to learn, and I end up with bubbles on top, with clear/cloudy water under it....Practice, practice, practice.

I also think I need to lower the amount of milk I use in my lattes....they taste watered down. Maybe ill have better luck learning milk frothing on a 12oz pitcher vs a 20oz?
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D4F
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Espresso: Gaggia Classic PID
Grinder: Baratza Forte-AP
Posted Sun Nov 18, 2012, 3:01pm
Subject: Re: First week with Gaggia Classic/Baratza Preciso
 

How much are you opening the steam valve.  You should be using enough pressure/flow to have the milk rolling.  I was not opening the valve far enough when I started.

 
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MochaJoe
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Location: Omaha, NE
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Espresso: Gaggia Classic
Grinder: Baratza Preciso
Posted Sun Nov 18, 2012, 3:55pm
Subject: Re: First week with Gaggia Classic/Baratza Preciso
 

Usually a quarter turn. I practiced a few times in a row with soap and twice I got amazing looking results, the rest were duds. Could also be that I was trying to steam too much without a break, not getting enough steam. Will try again tomorrow.
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D4F
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Espresso: Gaggia Classic PID
Grinder: Baratza Forte-AP
Posted Sun Nov 18, 2012, 4:33pm
Subject: Re: First week with Gaggia Classic/Baratza Preciso
 

I doubt that a 1/4 turn is enough.  You need a rolling action in the pitcher, or you may be blowing bubbles on top of the milk.  You need great pressure, but open enough to get good flow of steam.  I will try to take note how open mine is next time.  You can find Youtubes to help on the rolling and see the approximate rate.  

If watery, are you purging the water from the wand and upper boiler until it quits spitting water?  I let a fair amount out until the steam is "dry."  You can find Youtubes to help.

The PID helps because of less temperature swing, but you can also install a thermometer.  Temperature vs pressure chart noted.

Click Here (www.jgbhose.com)  

You can get a POLDER digital thermometer at BB and B and take it out of the steel tube and install and get the boiler temperature.

Click Here (coffeegeek.com)

 
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D4F
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Espresso: Gaggia Classic PID
Grinder: Baratza Forte-AP
Posted Mon Nov 19, 2012, 1:46pm
Subject: Re: First week with Gaggia Classic/Baratza Preciso
 

I found a great thread on use of the Polder thermometer and temperature surfing.

Click Here (coffeegeek.com)

The Polder is $10 at BB&B or $8 with the 20% coupon.  It will help steam also as you can see the temperature.

 
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MochaJoe
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Espresso: Gaggia Classic
Grinder: Baratza Preciso
Posted Wed Nov 21, 2012, 9:24pm
Subject: Re: First week with Gaggia Classic/Baratza Preciso
 

Hmm. It looks like I hit a snag. Same batch of beans, but now my shots are sputtering and spraying out from the portafilter spouts. The coffee came out very dark, and with an odd "crema". Odd like it pooled into a thin skin that broke apart into almost clumps. Gross.

This has happened twice. Tomorrow I guess Ill try playing with the grind, as I'm using the same mass if beans as before and a calibrated tamper.
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D4F
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Espresso: Gaggia Classic PID
Grinder: Baratza Forte-AP
Posted Wed Nov 21, 2012, 9:49pm
Subject: Re: First week with Gaggia Classic/Baratza Preciso
 

Sounds like channeling and distribution problem.  Bean age can also affect.  Search channeling here on CG.

 
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