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BrookNYC
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Posted Tue Nov 20, 2012, 1:53pm
Subject: Need help in deciding between the Gaggia classic and the Saeco Via Venezia
 

This will be my first espresso machine. I am a complete novice and would like to start out simple at first. My one must have is that it must have a pressurized portafilter because my husband will NOT even attempt to tamp. I would also like to stay under $500. I plan on using espresso grinds until I can buy a good grinder. Both my husband and I prefer lattes if that makes a difference when choosing a machine. I would prefer a model that will not break down within the first 3 years.

After tons of research I narrowed my list  down between the Saeco Via Venezia and the Gaggia classic. Which one is best in your opinion?
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Posted Tue Nov 20, 2012, 2:12pm
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I would probably get the gaggia over the saeco new.  But really if I were in your shoes, I would look for a used saeco for 80-100 on craigslist.  Then spend the rest of the money on a good grinder.

 
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Posted Tue Nov 20, 2012, 2:20pm
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I rather buy new because I would like to get a warranty. I am not handy and would prefer to just send it off to be fixed. I am purchasing from Amazon since they have a 3 year warranty for $39.99. If I stick to making espressos at home, I will buy a grinder in another 6mo. First I need to save some money. I visit Starbucks at least 2x a day and so does my husband. We need something in this house ASAP.
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Posted Tue Nov 20, 2012, 2:33pm
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The grinder is more important to the set up than you realize. Considering your situation I suggest a nice grinder and a drip set up or moka pot.

 
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Posted Tue Nov 20, 2012, 2:37pm
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If I have to buy a grinder right away I can. How much for a decent grinder?
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Posted Tue Nov 20, 2012, 2:52pm
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My husband will not touch the machine either. That is fine, I just do it for him.  

"New to Coffee"

See what is shown in the photo I think that might be a good way to start with a good grinder.  Then get great beans.  Then get a good machine.  You probably don't have a good espresso show room around you, but if you can get to one or have a friend with a machine it would help you a lot to get some hands on.  There might even be other Coffeegeeks in your area willing to give you a tour of their machines.

Amazon Grinders:
Hario-MSS-1B-Mini-Coffee-Grinder - Cheapest but hand powered
Baratza Preciso
Baratza Vario
Baratza Vario W (my fav)

 
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Posted Tue Nov 20, 2012, 2:54pm
Subject: Re: Need help in deciding between the Gaggia classic and the Saeco Via Venezia
 

Steaming milk for 2 drinks on any Single boiler machine will take a while.  Be sure to read


"How to Buy an Espresso Machine"

"First machine - 300-400$"
"For $200-$300 price range is the Gaggia Espresso Pure the best choice?"
"Decent Espresso Machines for $300"

 
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Posted Tue Nov 20, 2012, 4:27pm
Subject: Re: Need help in deciding between the Gaggia classic and the Saeco Via Venezia
 

Thanks I read all the threads. I will buy a Rancilio Rocky grinder and I am leaning more towards the Saeco Via Venezia simply because I am a little concerned with how few retailers sell the Gaggia. WLL still sells the Gaggia but without an extended warranty which leaves me with having to purchase it from Amazon. I can order the Via Venizia and the Grinder from SCG who I think will give me more personalized service plus I can still get an extended warranty. Please let me know if this is a good decision.

I wonder if anyone knows why SCG doesn't sell Gaggia?
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Posted Tue Nov 20, 2012, 4:33pm
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That would be a nice starter set up.  My guess is that seattlecoffeegear is not a gaggia vendor.  Gaggia classic has a better rep than the saeco but really for the price the saeco is not a bad starter machine.  If you upgrade the machine you will not be happy with the rocky for long.  But for now it is fine.

I have not bought anything from SCG but they seem nice in person and the videos they do are really helpful.

 
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Posted Tue Nov 20, 2012, 7:31pm
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I hope to be ok with the Ranchillo Rocky grinder because I plan on upgrading to the Silvia in a year or so if I can convince my husband to tamp at that time. I can't make an espresso for him because he leaves for work around 5am and I don't get up until 6am to get my kids ready for school and I am not waking up an hour earlier just to make his drink.
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