SStones Senior Member Joined: 24 Nov 2012 Posts: 235 Location: Canada Expertise: Professional
Espresso: Giga 5, ECM Giotto, Rocket... Grinder: Anfim Milano-Best Vac Pot: No :( Drip: Some $30 thing from Walmart Roaster: I buy pre-roasted.
Posted Sat Nov 24, 2012, 8:42pm Subject: Re: Shopping for a new machine
JasonBrandtLewis Said:
You said you have a Gaggia Baby. This is an SBDU machine, and -- as with any Single Boiler/Dual Use machine -- you need to switch the thermostat between pulling a shot and steaming milk. Regardless of which direction you go -- 1) shot first then steam; or 2) steam first, then pull shot -- there is a LOT OF WAITING involved:
1) Shot first: a) turn machine on; b) WAIT for machine to become thermally stable at the BREW setting; c) pull shot; d) flip switch to steam setting; e) WAIT for the machine to heat up properly to steam temp; f) steam milk.
2) Milk first: a) turn machine on; b) WAIT for machine to become thermally stable at the STEAM setting; c) steam milk; d) flip switch to brew setting; e) WAIT for the machine to cool down properly to brew temp; f) pull shot.
So, is your machine broken, or are you not patient enough? Serious question. It can be difficult to wait long enough in between steps . . .
On the steam-first, route. You can bring your boiler down to brew temp after steaming the milk. Release the steam switch (If it isn't self-releasing). Set the milk aside and place a spare cup under the steamwand. Re open the steam valve and run the pump (Hot water switch) until the steam coming out is replaced by liquid. Once the water in the boiler is liquid, close the steam-tap and you need only wait about 15 seconds for the boiler to be stable at brewing temp. Discard your spare cup of discard water. Brew your espresso into your already frothed milk. Then give the cappuccino to me, I want one.
calblacksmith Moderator Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 5,772 Location: Riverside, Ca, U.S.A. Expertise: I live coffee
Espresso: ECM Veneziano A1 Grinder: Many different commercial Vac Pot: 40s era Silex Drip: Milita, Bunn&Curtis... Roaster: Cast iron pan, gas burner
Posted Sat Nov 24, 2012, 9:36pm Subject: Re: Shopping for a new machine
emradguy Said:
Hey Wayne,
Those of us who saw your previous tag about Obama know what you mean there, but for any one else...well, it sort of looks like you had a bad relationship...lmao
Oh...and I finally posted a photo of my setup in the shrines forum!
emradguy Senior Member Joined: 31 Mar 2011 Posts: 1,803 Location: Houston Expertise: I live coffee
Espresso: Izzo Alex Duetto II Grinder: MacapM4T, Macap M4, OE Lido,... Drip: Espro press; Aeropress Roaster: internet
Posted Sun Nov 25, 2012, 9:22am Subject: Re: Shopping for a new machine
SStones Said:
On the steam-first, route. You can bring your boiler down to brew temp after steaming the milk. Release the steam switch (If it isn't self-releasing). Set the milk aside and place a spare cup under the steamwand. Re open the steam valve and run the pump (Hot water switch) until the steam coming out is replaced by liquid. Once the water in the boiler is liquid, close the steam-tap and you need only wait about 15 seconds for the boiler to be stable at brewing temp. Discard your spare cup of discard water. Brew your espresso into your already frothed milk. Then give the cappuccino to me, I want one.
For milk featured drinks, (when I had a SBDU machine) I preferred the brew first method. In milk featured drinks I'd prefer to have my espresso sitting around while my machine gets ready for milk, than have my milk sitting around while my machine gets ready for espresso...just my preference
EEEEEXXXXXXXXXCCCCCCCCCCUUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEE ME!, it is called THREAD DRIFT! On a topical board, GET USED TO IT! OK, that was 100 % in fun, not intended to offend anyone in any way!
In real life, my name is Wayne P.
Feed the newbs, starve the trolls and above all enjoy what you drink!
JasonBrandtLewis Senior Member Joined: 9 Dec 2005 Posts: 6,100 Location: Berkeley, CA Expertise: I live coffee
Espresso: Elektra T1 - La Valentina -... Grinder: Mahlkönig K30 Vario -... Vac Pot: Yama 5-cup Drip: CCD, Chemex Roaster: No, no, not another...
Posted Mon Nov 26, 2012, 2:30pm Subject: Re: Shopping for a new machine
Wayne, you forget the "Well . . . " part of the quote. C'est la vie. And do you remember, "And now, here's a joke for all you psychics in the audience."
The joke may not age but it seems the fans do. I swear my college age son asked me if i have ever heard of some guy named "Steve Martin" while we were discussing banjo pickers and Bela Fleck particularly. I wanted to pop the runt like a zit, ever hear of Steve Martin.
You know those people that want to tell you how to raise your kids but have none of their own? That is how i feel when someone with a kitchen appliance tells me how the merits or dis-merits of my machine or how to use it.
washburned Senior Member Joined: 23 Nov 2012 Posts: 29 Location: napa Expertise: Just starting
Espresso: La Nuova Era Cuadra II Grinder: Baratza vario
Posted Mon Nov 26, 2012, 5:38pm Subject: Re: Shopping for a new machine
Do you guys realize for every off topic post on my help thread I get an email? So I come see what has been posted only to read your off topic conversation.
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