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andrewm
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Posted Tue Dec 4, 2012, 5:53pm
Subject: Assistance in picking out an Espresso machine for a reasonable price.
 

Hi all, I just joined.

So, I've done an immense amount of research, but I'm still having a hard time finding a decently priced espresso machine.

I managed to snag a used Mazzer Mini, which I've since cleaned and love very much.


I've considered semi-automatics and even considered a La Pavoni lever machine, but I mostly want to make Cappuccinos and Americanos. I have not yet acquired a "Taste" for espresso by itself. I like the richness and milk texture of a cappuccino. Mostly I make pour overs in my Chemex, but I miss the luxurious texture of steamed milk and strength of espresso.

Machines I'm considering, from "cheapest to best":

Gaggia Classic

Rancilio Silvia

Crossland CC1

Isomac Tea

I know that double boilers are better for milk + espresso drinks, and I know that HX espresso machines are better than single boilers. Mostly I'm looking at making two espresso based drinks at a time, if I'm entertaining I like to use my Chemex, but might make 4-8 espresso drinks if I have a ton of guests.

I'd like to get a machine used, as I find buying new is way too much money. The absolute most I could ever shell out is 800 dollars all in, and that's only for a good double boiler. I live near Vancouver, British Columbia, and I'd be willing to travel as far as Seattle to get a good used machine.

I learn extremely quickly and love to experiment with stuff, so long as I don't have to "modify" the actual machine in any technical aspect.

Any recommendations? I've tried Craigslist, but it's been hit or miss.
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Coffeenoobie
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Location: PNW
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Espresso: N S Oscar
Grinder: K30 & Vario W
Posted Tue Dec 4, 2012, 5:58pm
Subject: Re: Assistance in picking out an Espresso machine for a reasonable price.
 

"How to Buy an Espresso Machine"  (very important read)

"First machine - 300-400$"
"For $200-$300 price range is the Gaggia Espresso Pure the best choice?"
"Decent Espresso Machines for $300"
"New to Coffee"

Grinders:
Hario-MSS-1B-Mini-Coffee-Grinder - Cheapest but hand powered
OE Lido hand powered
OE Pharos hand powered
Baratza Preciso
Baratza Vario
Baratza Vario W (my favorite)
Used Commercial grinders

NOTE:

HX does milk drinks very well.  Many maybe even most pro machines out in coffee shops today are HX.  HX design makes it a bit cheaper to do than 2 boilers.

 
Coffeenoobie

Buying advice: GRINDER GRINDER GRINDER. Don't cheap out on the grinder.

My coffee treasure map...
Click Here (maps.google.com)

Oscar trick out: http://s156.photobucket.com/user/GandBteam/story/14231
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Coffeenoobie
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Espresso: N S Oscar
Grinder: K30 & Vario W
Posted Tue Dec 4, 2012, 6:02pm
Subject: Re: Assistance in picking out an Espresso machine for a reasonable price.
 

Isomac Tea is an HX according to
Click Here (www.1st-line.com)

 
Coffeenoobie

Buying advice: GRINDER GRINDER GRINDER. Don't cheap out on the grinder.

My coffee treasure map...
Click Here (maps.google.com)

Oscar trick out: http://s156.photobucket.com/user/GandBteam/story/14231
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andrewm
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Posted Tue Dec 4, 2012, 6:08pm
Subject: Re: Assistance in picking out an Espresso machine for a reasonable price.
 

Yup I've read all those and I own a Mazzer Mini grinder.

I ideally wanted help finding other places where I can buy a decently priced used machine, preferably an HX like the Isomac Tea. If I could spend 500 and get a used HX, I'd be happy.
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Coffeenoobie
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Espresso: N S Oscar
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Posted Tue Dec 4, 2012, 6:12pm
Subject: Re: Assistance in picking out an Espresso machine for a reasonable price.
 

And we have a sell, buy and trade section. There could be more there.

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rds/hsh/3448756081.html
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/for/3414289416.html
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/app/3451829401.html
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/app/3450952781.html

 
Coffeenoobie

Buying advice: GRINDER GRINDER GRINDER. Don't cheap out on the grinder.

My coffee treasure map...
Click Here (maps.google.com)

Oscar trick out: http://s156.photobucket.com/user/GandBteam/story/14231
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Coffeenoobie
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Espresso: N S Oscar
Grinder: K30 & Vario W
Posted Tue Dec 4, 2012, 6:13pm
Subject: Re: Assistance in picking out an Espresso machine for a reasonable price.
 

There were 2 oscars last month for about that in the WA area.  I don't see them now.  They go fast at that price.

 
Coffeenoobie

Buying advice: GRINDER GRINDER GRINDER. Don't cheap out on the grinder.

My coffee treasure map...
Click Here (maps.google.com)

Oscar trick out: http://s156.photobucket.com/user/GandBteam/story/14231
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Coffeenoobie
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Espresso: N S Oscar
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Posted Tue Dec 4, 2012, 6:14pm
Subject: Re: Assistance in picking out an Espresso machine for a reasonable price.
 

Oscar $375 in WA state you can't be that even if you drive a lot assuming it works.
http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/for/3448005550.html

http://skagit.craigslist.org/bfs/3375142559.html Appia with grinder and water softener for 1500.  I wish I had the cash....

 
Coffeenoobie

Buying advice: GRINDER GRINDER GRINDER. Don't cheap out on the grinder.

My coffee treasure map...
Click Here (maps.google.com)

Oscar trick out: http://s156.photobucket.com/user/GandBteam/story/14231
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andrewm
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Posted Tue Dec 4, 2012, 6:17pm
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Hmmm, I know this may seem absurd, but my wife thinks the Oscar looks ugly. The chrome or polished steel ones look much nicer.

(Yes, I know that's ridiculous, and I'm sorry)
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Coffeenoobie
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Location: PNW
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Espresso: N S Oscar
Grinder: K30 & Vario W
Posted Tue Dec 4, 2012, 7:10pm
Subject: Re: Assistance in picking out an Espresso machine for a reasonable price.
 

They are not pretty, you pay for pretty.  I like the black ones better than silver.

 
Coffeenoobie

Buying advice: GRINDER GRINDER GRINDER. Don't cheap out on the grinder.

My coffee treasure map...
Click Here (maps.google.com)

Oscar trick out: http://s156.photobucket.com/user/GandBteam/story/14231
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Coffeenoobie
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Coffeenoobie
Joined: 11 Dec 2011
Posts: 3,009
Location: PNW
Expertise: I like coffee

Espresso: N S Oscar
Grinder: K30 & Vario W
Posted Tue Dec 4, 2012, 7:12pm
Subject: Re: Assistance in picking out an Espresso machine for a reasonable price.
 

Tell her the stainless is much harder to keep clean and easier to burn yourself on.   Don't expect it will change her mind but full disclosure can't hurt.

 
Coffeenoobie

Buying advice: GRINDER GRINDER GRINDER. Don't cheap out on the grinder.

My coffee treasure map...
Click Here (maps.google.com)

Oscar trick out: http://s156.photobucket.com/user/GandBteam/story/14231
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