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RaymondParker
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Posted Wed Dec 5, 2012, 11:11pm
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carz07 Said:

bubbadude i did a test

15g at 30sec made 54grams slight bitter
18g at 32sec made 51grams bitter

how do i fix it?

Posted December 5, 2012 link

Its the beans / roast not the machine.
Try another bean from another roaster - or simpler: get a 250 Illy Gram sealed box and try.
Fresh illy beans in their airtight container are not as bad as some here write it down
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Posted Wed Dec 5, 2012, 11:21pm
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carz07 Said:

bubbadude i did a test

15g at 30sec made 54grams slight bitter
18g at 32sec made 51grams bitter

how do i fix it?

15g should make 30g within 30sec right, 30g is like 1.05oz, this is suppose to be double shot like 2oz
im confused

Posted December 5, 2012 link

I would tighten up the grind to get your cup down to 19 dry/38 wet. You must have a loose grind to get those numbers.

What's your temp?

 
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Posted Wed Dec 5, 2012, 11:26pm
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RaymondParker Said:

Its the beans / roast not the machine.
Try another bean from another roaster - or simpler: get a 250 Illy Gram sealed box and try.
Fresh illy beans in their airtight container are not as bad as some here write it down

Posted December 5, 2012 link

these are 16days old beans, darker roast colombian, perhaps i will try to check other roasters but still searching for them, very rare here in the philippines

 
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Posted Wed Dec 5, 2012, 11:29pm
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carz07 Said:

these are 16days old beans, darker roast colombian, perhaps i will try to check other roasters but still searching for them, very rare here in the philippines

Posted December 5, 2012 link

16 days is pushing it, but it's not too old. Grind a little finer.

 
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Posted Wed Dec 5, 2012, 11:31pm
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BubbaDude Said:

I would tighten up the grind to get your cup down to 19 dry/38 wet. You must have a loose grind to get those numbers.

What's your temp?

Posted December 5, 2012 link

temp is at 200

im running out of beans, can i use the 18dry / 36wet instead?

the 18g, the puck was dry but it got stucked, does this mean something? when i was doing 15g before the puck didnt stuck but it was moist in the pf and the pf wasnt clean after the knock

 
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Posted Wed Dec 5, 2012, 11:36pm
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carz07 Said:

temp is at 200

im running out of beans, can i use the 18dry / 36wet instead?

the 18g, the puck was dry but it got stucked, does this mean something? when i was doing 15g before the puck didnt stuck but it was moist in the pf and the pf wasnt clean after the knock

Posted December 5, 2012 link

You've discovered the other reason for a heavier puck, they don't stick. At 18g you'll get a lot of stuck pucks. 19g pucks never stick.

 
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Posted Wed Dec 5, 2012, 11:37pm
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BubbaDude Said:

16 days is pushing it, but it's not too old. Grind a little finer.

Posted December 5, 2012 link

was trying before like 3 days after roasting, and the roaster said its still degassing, so the range now is at least 7days but not more than 14days?
i will redo the approach so it should be with the range and then do the 18dry/36wet at 32sec

 
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Posted Wed Dec 5, 2012, 11:41pm
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BubbaDude Said:

You've discovered the other reason for a heavier puck, they don't stick. At 18g you'll get a lot of stuck pucks. 19g pucks never stick.

Posted December 5, 2012 link

heheheh made a grim on my face, so 19grams then, running out of beans but then its worth it to test hmmmm

so the 38wet here is less than 2oz right? will the ratio follow if i increase the volume?

 
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Posted Wed Dec 5, 2012, 11:43pm
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carz07 Said:

these are 16days old beans, darker roast colombian, perhaps i will try to check other roasters but still searching for them, very rare here in the philippines

Posted December 5, 2012 link

get yourself a box of Illy by Amazon and try
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Posted Wed Dec 5, 2012, 11:45pm
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

carz07 Said:

was trying before like 3 days after roasting, and the roaster said its still degassing, so the range now is at least 7days but not more than 14days?
i will redo the approach so it should be with the range and then do the 18dry/36wet at 32sec

Posted December 5, 2012 link

I sometimes use beans two days after roasting if that's all I've got. These are just guidelines, not unbreakable rules.

 
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