washburned Senior Member Joined: 23 Nov 2012 Posts: 29 Location: napa Expertise: Just starting
Espresso: La Nuova Era Cuadra II Grinder: Baratza vario
Posted Wed Dec 19, 2012, 6:39pm Subject: Re: Decision Time Breville or Nuova Era
bagscoffee Said:
In addition to information overload, I'm shopping for a machine that's technically for my wife, so it has to be relatively simple and she has to like it. In the end, I went to a large retailer and bought the BDB. If I hate it, or she hates it, or it sucks or it breaks down, I have the option to return it. That made pulling the trigger much, much easier for me.
That is a good point, but it moves me away from the BDB because I don't want to spend full price on one. So maybe that is my answer if I am only willing to get the Breville at a discount I should pass and get what I really want which is....
OK. First of all, there is nothing wrong with an E61 group head. It is a great design. Proof positive? It is still in use after 50+ years. But does anyone truly believe that there have been no improvements in the design over the past half-century?
Virtually every manufacturer -- if they aren't using an E61/E61 clone -- uses a proprietary design based on the E61 group. The Bezzera BZ07 uses a thermostatically controlled group head. It is very stable, from a thermal perspective, and that's a good thing . . . .
bagscoffee Senior Member Joined: 10 Dec 2012 Posts: 10 Location: VA Expertise: I like coffee
Posted Thu Dec 20, 2012, 6:51am Subject: Re: Decision Time Breville or Nuova Era
FWIW, I used one of the ubiquitous 20% off coupons at BBB. They took it despite Breville being listed in the exclusions.
Honestly, this isn't the machine that I want, but this whole adventure started out because my wife asked for an espresso machine for Christmas. The BDB is the most user friendly of the machines I considered, so I got it. I'm really hoping that she'll get comfortable with the process and we can eventually upgrade to something more shiny and Italian.
Coffeenoobie Senior Member Joined: 11 Dec 2011 Posts: 2,317 Location: PNW Expertise: I like coffee
Espresso: N S Oscar Grinder: Vario W
Posted Thu Dec 20, 2012, 12:12pm Subject: Re: Decision Time Breville or Nuova Era
If she likes the cooking process I think she will probably like it. If she doesn't like to bother with steps in order like for baking then she might not.....
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washburned Senior Member Joined: 23 Nov 2012 Posts: 29 Location: napa Expertise: Just starting
Espresso: La Nuova Era Cuadra II Grinder: Baratza vario
Posted Thu Dec 20, 2012, 7:47pm Subject: Re: Decision Time Breville or Nuova Era
The decision has been made. Not by me as I was stuck, I had my wife choose based on appearance alone and she chose the Cuadra. I ordered one from First line along with a bottomless PF and a fancy tamper. It won't be delivered in time for Christmas but better late than never. Hopefully the Vario I ordered earlier in the week will be here soon enough. I have the say it was pleasure dealing with first line they were very helpful. Thanks to everyone for all the help with the machine choice. I will be using the time waiting to read up on how to use it all.
calblacksmith Moderator Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 5,678 Location: Riverside, Ca, U.S.A. Expertise: I live coffee
Espresso: ECM Veneziano A1 Grinder: Many different commercial Vac Pot: 40s era Silex Drip: Milita, Bunn&Curtis... Roaster: Cast iron pan, gas burner
Posted Thu Dec 20, 2012, 8:13pm Subject: Re: Decision Time Breville or Nuova Era
Hey CONGRATS!!! I am sure you will be happy, now the long wait begins, it will feel like years but it won't be. Do not be shy about asking questions, I am sure you will have many of them.
ENJOY!
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washburned Senior Member Joined: 23 Nov 2012 Posts: 29 Location: napa Expertise: Just starting
Espresso: La Nuova Era Cuadra II Grinder: Baratza vario
Posted Thu Dec 20, 2012, 8:18pm Subject: Re: Decision Time Breville or Nuova Era
calblacksmith Said:
Hey CONGRATS!!! I am sure you will be happy, now the long wait begins, it will feel like years but it won't be. Do not be shy about asking questions, I am sure you will have many of them.
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