D4F Senior Member Joined: 15 Mar 2012 Posts: 1,223 Location: USA Expertise: I like coffee
Espresso: Gaggia Classic PID Grinder: Preciso
Posted Fri Dec 21, 2012, 7:46pm Subject: Re: Stainless vs Copper
The botualism illness is from the preformed toxin, heat labile at about 176C for 10 minutes. The spores are much more heat resistant as noted, found in many soils and water.
Credibility/credentials " I stayed at a Holiday Inn " :)
Why, are NY doctors held to a higher standard or a lower standard?
Please pray tell.
Len
"Coffee leads men to trifle away their time, scald their chops, and spend their money, all for a little base, black, thick, nasty, bitter, stinking nauseous puddle water." ~The Women's Petition Against Coffee, 1674
The arrogance of doctors is legendary, but my experience has usually been different. Most of the doctors I've seen in a professional capacity have discussed the situation openly, and seemed pretty careful to distinguish fact from opinion.
A guy dies and goes to heaven. He's pleased to meet an old friend there, who graciously offers to show him around the place.
At midday they're in the lunchroom where food is served cafeteria style. While waiting in the long line, another fellow wearing a white coat and stethoscope cuts ahead of them, pushing people out of the way, and yells at the server that he wants bigger portions.
The new recruit whispers to his friend, "Who the hell is THAT jerk?"
The friend says, "Oh, that's God. He thinks he's a doctor."
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