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MDiddy
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Posted Fri Apr 5, 2013, 2:55pm
Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread
 

How big is the pitcher? - 20 oz

How much milk is in this pitcher? - Less than half full.

Which wand do you have and how many holes? - Stock 2 hole, no burn wand.

What is the actual voltage at the outlet? - Should be 110, but I can test this when I get home and get an actual reading.

When is the last time you descaled? - Have not yet.  Machine is only 3 months old.

Water going into the machine isn't very hard.  Only about 120 PPM tested with strips and a digital meter.
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Posted Fri Apr 5, 2013, 3:25pm
Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread
 

How big is the pitcher? - 20 oz

How much milk is in this pitcher? - Less than half full.

Which wand do you have and how many holes? - Stock 2 hole, no burn wand.

What is the actual voltage at the outlet? - Should be 110, but I can test this when I get home and get an actual reading.

When is the last time you descaled? - Have not yet.  Machine is only 3 months old.

Water going into the machine isn't very hard.  Only about 120 PPM tested with strips and a digital meter.


I would suggest a descale.

Please confirm no hissing coming from inside while sitting at norm op temp.

Please confirm no excessive dripping from drip tray left rear while machine is sitting.

 
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MDiddy
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Posted Fri Apr 5, 2013, 3:35pm
Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread
 

1stline Said:

I would suggest a descale.

Please confirm no hissing coming from inside while sitting at norm op temp.

Please confirm no excessive dripping from drip tray left rear while machine is sitting.

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No hissing at all.  Had the machine open last night to adjust the a bit higher, made no difference.

No excessive dripping into the tray, although there is some.
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MDiddy
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Posted Fri Apr 5, 2013, 6:39pm
Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread
 

One query about the descale as well.  

If it is a scale issue, why does steam work perfectly after I let the machine rebound?  The steam just falls flat the first time, but once turned off, and the machine comes back to normal pressure, the steam then works fine and doesn't dip any lower than .8 -.9 BAR?  Seems odd to me.
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Posted Sat Apr 6, 2013, 12:38am
Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread
 

I got the new La Nuova Era Cuadra in place and everything worked without a hitch. Its a huge difference from my Gaggia Classic. I have the onboard water softener activated and working.  
I have the Oscar 150 softener in a large water container so its getting good water. I found crystal springs one which had great test results 48 on TDS meter and 48 PPM GH before going through the two softeners.
Made three double Lattes of Black Cat not even off the roast (4/3) and steamed milk effortlessly.
All I can say is the whole thing works wonderful,1stLine is top notch and build quality on the machine is very very good. I have some Verve coming first of next week to run through it.
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Posted Sun Apr 7, 2013, 3:20pm
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Hi, folks. Have been lurking here for a short time and I read pretty much all of this thread. I ordered a Cuadra II and a Vario W and it is supposed to get here tomorrow. I am looking forward to lots of interesting times in the future! MY current espresso maker cost less then $100 so this is a real upgrade. In fact, I am not so sure that little machine could even make real expresso!
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Posted Sun Apr 7, 2013, 7:00pm
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Congratulations,you will love it Im sure. I love mine and 1st-Line is great.I assume you got it there. I went from a Gaggia Classic to it and it is light years ahead really. Everyone here always said that and they were right.

bodkacoffee Said:

Hi, folks. Have been lurking here for a short time and I read pretty much all of this thread. I ordered a Cuadra II and a Vario W and it is supposed to get here tomorrow. I am looking forward to lots of interesting times in the future! MY current espresso maker cost less then $100 so this is a real upgrade. In fact, I am not so sure that little machine could even make real expresso!

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Posted Mon Apr 8, 2013, 7:06am
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Meh, I was planning on using RO water on my new Cuadra (and plumbing it in via a float valve), but I just remembered something...  :-(

RO water will leach copper, and the boiler is made of copper. So long term use of RO water in a copper boiler will result in its eventual failure. For that matter, most brasses are alloyed with copper, and are not immune to this mode of failure, either.

On a positive note, I will be picking up my CuadraII from 1st-line at 9am this morning (I asked UPS to hold for will-call because I'm that excited and do not want to wait for or possibly miss the truck).
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Posted Mon Apr 8, 2013, 7:54am
Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread
 

Not to mention if you use r/o water in that machine your auto refill wont work becasue it has no conductivity,this will casue real problems.

pfn Said:

Meh, I was planning on using RO water on my new Cuadra (and plumbing it in via a float valve), but I just remembered something...  :-(

RO water will leach copper, and the boiler is made of copper. So long term use of RO water in a copper boiler will result in its eventual failure. For that matter, most brasses are alloyed with copper, and are not immune to this mode of failure, either.

On a positive note, I will be picking up my CuadraII from 1st-line at 9am this morning (I asked UPS to hold for will-call because I'm that excited and do not want to wait for or possibly miss the truck).

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Posted Mon Apr 8, 2013, 1:25pm
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Yay, got it all setup. The pstat hysteresis seems pretty small, the boiler clicks on and off every 30 seconds; it looks like it's set to a max of 1.1bar and a low point of something above 1.0bar. Burned through half of the beans I bought from Chromatic dialing in my stepless skerton (used to leave it on the 3rd stepped setting from bottomed with a Silvia before I bought an M8 nylock nut to convert it earlier).

Took a bit of flushing to get the odor out of the grouphead, there's still a chemical, plasticky odor coming from the steam wand and hot water taps, still trying to flush those out. I didn't get any instructions on "charging" the softener, so I kinda just ran with it and let it run as-is (found some charging instructions on wholelattelove; prob a similar process for this one, and I guess I'll do it later).

As for the RO water I have... I'm mixing it with tap water anywhere 50/50 to 3:1 RO:tap to try and reduce scale in the machine; my water is so hard  :-/ -- it's a pain having to fill the machine manually, though. It would have been nice to be able to plumb in.

Got those stupid stickers off of the grouphead, too, used a little bit of acetone, comes off clean and no visible damage to the finish.

Oh, and a 14g dose is a bit low in the basket when tamping, the tamper practically bottoms out, but barely clears (it rubs the basket when I spin the tamper after tamping, and impacts slightly at the end of my tamp)

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