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Posted Wed Apr 10, 2013, 1:19pm
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Iluvdabean Said:

Is this number three?

Posted April 10, 2013 link

Yes, that's why I wrote "new new BDB."

 
"I've Scaced many HX/E61 machines, seeing shot variances of up to 8-10F or more. [The BDB] stays within 1F." - Mark Prince
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Posted Wed Apr 10, 2013, 1:53pm
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Well ones things for sure you have a lot of perseverance my friend.

BubbaDude Said:

Yes, that's why I wrote "new new BDB."

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Posted Wed Apr 10, 2013, 2:02pm
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Iluvdabean Said:

Well ones things for sure you have a lot of perseverance my friend.

Posted April 10, 2013 link

It's not hard, as long as I don't press the "Kill Button" it works fine. You should see what I go through with cycling accessories.

 
"I've Scaced many HX/E61 machines, seeing shot variances of up to 8-10F or more. [The BDB] stays within 1F." - Mark Prince
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Posted Wed Apr 10, 2013, 6:00pm
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BubbaDude Said:

I'm getting a new new BDB. The one i currently have, an early /B, throws Err1 messages if you press the wrong key at the right time. I can force an Err1 by simply pressing the Power button when the machine is in sleep mode and I want to turn it off, for example. It will also throw the Err1 if it's awake but toward the bottom of the temperature control range. If I wake the machine up from sleep mode by pressing a button other than Power, it simply flashes a few times and wakes up like it's supposed to to. The coffee it makes is fine, and the only consequence of the error message is to cause me to quickly unplug and re-plug the machine, which I can do fast enough enough that it doesn't even lose its time setting.

But it's annoying, and Breville agreed with me that this Err1 is caused by a firmware bug. So they took a look at the firmware, found the problem, and tested the heck out of it. The new machine is supposed to be on its way today, so we'll have it in two days or so for a little end user testing. I'm guessing they wish they'd put in a USB connection so the user could update the code on his own, so maybe that's a feature the new models will have. It raises the unit price a little, but in the long run it has to save on service costs and that sort of thing.

I'm glad the Err1 thing has been fully sorted, if indeed that's the case.

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Too bad they arent sending one of the soon to be released models!
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Posted Thu Apr 11, 2013, 6:54pm
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Maybe you can get some perks or something....???? An inconvenience reward or something......dont ya think.

BubbaDude Said:

It's not hard, as long as I don't press the "Kill Button" it works fine. You should see what I go through with cycling accessories.

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Posted Fri Apr 12, 2013, 7:41am
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No. 3.  Seem to recall a prediction.
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Posted Fri Apr 12, 2013, 8:23am
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Here's the new dual boiler from Breville at SCAA: The Oracle BES980XL.   Built-in grinder and it auto-tamps and froths milks automatically too.  It looks cool but I hope it doesn't take the place of the current Dual Boiler.

hotwasabipeas: Breville Oracle.jpg
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Posted Fri Apr 12, 2013, 8:26am
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Here' are some larger pics:

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/5122/brevilleoracle.jpg
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Posted Fri Apr 12, 2013, 8:35am
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hotwasabipeas Said:

Here's the new dual boiler from Breville at SCAA: The Oracle BES980XL.   Built-in grinder and it auto-tamps and froths milks automatically too.  It looks cool but I hope it doesn't take the place of the current Dual Boiler.

Posted April 12, 2013 link

Is this the descalable model? Are there any other models they are releasing? Really not into the built in grinder.
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Posted Fri Apr 12, 2013, 9:03am
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BubbaDude Said:

I'm getting a new new BDB. The one i currently have, an early /B, throws Err1 messages if you press the wrong key at the right time. I can force an Err1 by simply pressing the Power button when the machine is in sleep mode and I want to turn it off, for example. It will also throw the Err1 if it's awake but toward the bottom of the temperature control range. If I wake the machine up from sleep mode by pressing a button other than Power, it simply flashes a few times and wakes up like it's supposed to to. The coffee it makes is fine, and the only consequence of the error message is to cause me to quickly unplug and re-plug the machine, which I can do fast enough enough that it doesn't even lose its time setting.

But it's annoying, and Breville agreed with me that this Err1 is caused by a firmware bug. So they took a look at the firmware, found the problem, and tested the heck out of it. The new machine is supposed to be on its way today, so we'll have it in two days or so for a little end user testing. I'm guessing they wish they'd put in a USB connection so the user could update the code on his own, so maybe that's a feature the new models will have. It raises the unit price a little, but in the long run it has to save on service costs and that sort of thing.

I'm glad the Err1 thing has been fully sorted, if indeed that's the case.

Posted April 10, 2013 link

The really good news about your situation is that they can finaly identify the cause of the Err1 (don't know about 2 and 3). That drove me nuts that they had no idea what it was. Hoepfully that means that they are able to fix it rather than just replace the unit.  That would have kept me with the BDB. I was never able to "force"  the Err 1-2 or 3 messages and had the same experience as you of being able to unplug-replug and then make great coffee.

Phil had posted this about the Err1 on another thread:

"Err1 is generated when the software detects a signal from the brew boiler NTC that is not within a specified range. From initial production, there were a batch of NTCs that were not within our required spec. That's why some have reported this happening on multiple machines. Sometimes tracking down these intermittent issues is really hard because they don't present themselves everytime the machine is used. Usually turning the machine off at the wall socket & turning back on will allow you to continue to use the machine, and sometimes it never happens again....if it does continue to occur, then return it for service & the NTC will be replaced.

Cheers, Phil "

The thing I like is that Breville keeps displaying excellent customer service.
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