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PrescottCR
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Posted Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:11pm
Subject: built in grinder
 

While I agree with the theory about the heat of the machine being bad for the beans in the grinder I have to say that I've pulled shots with a BES870 (Barista Express) and they were just fine. That machine, at that price point is a really good deal.

Ceramic is nice because a of the durability and less heat, however once it heats up it stays hot (slow to gain, slow to lose). On our little home grinders I really doubt it matters much. On a commercial grinder like that does 21gm in 3 seconds, yeah it matters.

For those of us who already have a grinder the point is moot. For new comers who don't have much space on a counter top, the included grinder is attractive. Just like a TV/VCR combo, you can always get better equipment that fits your needs if you buy them separately.

The great thing about your home system is that you can design it the way you want.
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Posted Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:18pm
Subject: Re: built in grinder
 

PrescottCR Said:

While I agree with the theory about the heat of the machine being bad for the beans in the grinder I have to say that I've pulled shots with a BES870 (Barista Express) and they were just fine. That machine, at that price point is a really good deal.

Posted December 17, 2013 link

Of course, you don't have to leave beans in the machine between shots if you don't want to, so there is that.

 
"I've Scaced many HX/E61 machines, seeing shot variances of up to 8-10F or more. [The BDB] stays within 1F." - Mark Prince
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ryguy76
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Posted Sun Dec 22, 2013, 4:20pm
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

Hi guys,

I've had my dual boiler since it was released in Canada, (almost 2 years).  It's been great and still is, but I started noticing a funny noise recently when extracting and doing back flush cleans.  It's almost like an annoying buzzer sound from the original "Operation" game.  It can be quiet or loud, but it's starting to be heard in every extraction now.

Any ideas of what it could be?

Thanks.
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PrescottCR
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Posted Mon Dec 23, 2013, 8:19am
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

Are you willing to open it up? At this point you don't have anything to lose, I'm assuming your warranty is up. It's not a difficult task, you just need the right drivers.

The pump itself could be the source of your buzzing, or that general area. My home machine is much buzzier than my work machine, for example.

Bubba- yes, you can remove the hopper and why not! I would suggest doing that, but the whole grinder internals including the burrs are subjected to the machine heat at all times and that's not helped by removing the beans. Being concerned about the beans being heated that much might be over-precaution anyway.

As with any grinder I recommend running about 1/2 a dose of beans through the grinder before pulling a first shot or if it's been more than 5 minutes between shots just for freshness sake. The bigger the grinder the more stale ground coffee is left behind. Little grinders might be slower than the pro grinders, but they waste less coffee for you!
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Posted Mon Dec 23, 2013, 9:37am
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

Ya, I've opened it to do the OPV adjustment awhile back, but I'm not sure how to begin troubleshooting this issue.  ideas?
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biochemgawd
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Posted Mon Dec 23, 2013, 5:32pm
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

One of my machines is doing this intermittently - sounds like the OPV or 3way is sticking - pressure drops significantly when it does it. Also, once it stops it doesn't start again during a shot.

Why don't we try to figure this out together? I'll open up my machine tomorrow morning and try to locate the source of the clicking.
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Posted Mon Dec 23, 2013, 8:43pm
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

Sounds good.  I'll see if I can get a moment tomorrow, but being xmas eve, it might be a stretch.  Today it was lessened, but I do think it's OPV related.
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Posted Tue Dec 24, 2013, 12:01pm
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

ryguy76 Said:

Sounds good.  I'll see if I can get a moment tomorrow, but being xmas eve, it might be a stretch.  Today it was lessened, but I do think it's OPV related.

Posted December 23, 2013 link

Had mine open today for an hour - wouldn't make the sound no matter what I did. The solution seems to be loosening and retightening the screws on the case ;-)
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Posted Tue Dec 24, 2013, 1:16pm
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

biochemgawd Said:

One of my machines is doing this intermittently - sounds like the OPV or 3way is sticking - pressure drops significantly when it does it. Also, once it stops it doesn't start again during a shot.

Why don't we try to figure this out together? I'll open up my machine tomorrow morning and try to locate the source of the clicking.

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Click Here (coffeesnobs.com.au)

My BDB is 26 months old with 3000 shots and still going strong. I guess one issue that comes up is the o-rings on the 3 way valve which may be the problem here. I bookmarked this page from coffeesnobs in case I had to do any repairs. The o-ring sizes are near the bottom of the page. I think I would use silicone o-rings rather than viton as viton is not recommended for high pressure hot water.
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Posted Tue Dec 24, 2013, 2:22pm
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

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Metatron Said:

Click Here (coffeesnobs.com.au)

My BDB is 26 months old with 3000 shots and still going strong. I guess one issue that comes up is the o-rings on the 3 way valve which may be the problem here. I bookmarked this page from coffeesnobs in case I had to do any repairs. The o-ring sizes are near the bottom of the page. I think I would use silicone o-rings rather than viton as viton is not recommended for high pressure hot water.

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Thanks - probably worth buying these either way.
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