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Posted Sat Dec 29, 2012, 1:11pm
Subject: Espresso

Hi everyone

Santa brought me an espresso machine for Christmas, however I am having a few problems. When I use one shot and to up with water to make an Americano it is REALLY weak. When I use two shots it improves it slightly but it's still not Starbucks or costa strength! I have bough some Starbucks espresso branded beans but his does not make and difference, anyone got any ideas?

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Location: Riverside, Ca, U.S.A.
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Espresso: ECM Vene. A1, La Cimbali M32
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Posted Sat Dec 29, 2012, 9:52pm
Subject: Re: Espresso

Hi and welcome
This is a hobby that gets very technical very quickly.
First the age of your beans is very important.
The rule of 15s says. GREEN UNROASTED beans are good for 15 months
Roasted beans are good for about 15 DAYS
Ground beans are good for 15 MINUTES FROM THE TIME THEY WERE GROUND


I know you already have a machine but please read the FAQ on how to buy an espresso machine, it will answer questions you don't even know to ask.

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Espresso: Poccino Opus One, Ariete
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Posted Sat Dec 29, 2012, 10:22pm
Subject: Re: Espresso

Did you use freshly roasted and freshly ground coffee or pre-ground? How much coffee powder did you use for your shots? What was the extraction/percolation time? How much water for your Americanos?

These are the traditional Italian recipes:
  • 7 g coffee + 25 ml water = Caffè espresso
  • 7 g coffee + 25 ml water + 25-50 ml hot water (added after extraction) = Caffè americano
  • 7 g coffee + 15 ml water = Espresso ristretto
  • 7 g coffee + 50 ml water = Espresso lungo:
  • 14 g coffee + 50 ml water = Caffè doppio
  • 14 g coffee + 30 ml water = Ristretto doppio
  • Caffè espresso (25 ml) + 125 ml frothed milk = Cappuccino
  • Caffè espresso (25 ml) + 120 ml hot milk + 80 ml frothed milk = Latte macchiato
  • Caffè espresso (25 ml) + 5-15 ml frothed milk = Caffè (espresso) macchiato
  • Doppio (50 ml) + 200 ml hot milk (not necessarily topped with frothed milk) = Caffè latte

A good place to start reading about espresso basics is the Home Barista's Guide to Espresso. You'll probably find a lot of answers there.

"This drink of the Satan is so delicious that it would be a shame to leave it to the infidels." (Pope Clement VIII on coffee, when he was urged to ban the beverage)
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