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carz07
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Posted Wed Jan 16, 2013, 8:10am
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

BubbaDude Said:

This week my little Brevilley celebrates her first birthday. It has been a wonderful year of good coffee, fun with roasting, predictable shots, and trouble-free operation. The machine turns herself on every morning, I load her up with a measured dose of fresh-ground coffee, and enjoy the tastes and aromas of my espresso. Every once in a while, I make a cappuccino or a latte, but that typically happens only when the bean I have on hand isn't that great. I roast my own, so a lot of beans and roasts are experiments that didn't pan out.

To celebrate Brevilley's birthday, I gave her a nice little "clean me" cycle with Cafiza and a true blind,took off her screen and cleaned it up, and cleaned and calibrated her best friend Vario. I'm wondering if I shouldn't take her skin off and peer into her guts to complete the festivities. I'm not going to mess with her seals on the theory that once opened, they will need to replaced even if they're working fine so far (which they are.)

Any suggestions?

Posted January 13, 2013 link

Happy Birthday!

 
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Posted Thu Jan 17, 2013, 8:29am
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Park_Ridge_Dave Said:

Cafeespresso,

First, I am not trying to be a SmartA$$. But the only mention that I see for error 3 is in the manual on page 35. It says that an error has occurred that CANNOT be reset by the user.

The instruction is to call 1-866-273-8455. I am very "anal' and so I do RTFM (Read the "FINE" manual lol).

If nobody here can give us a better answer and if you contact Breville, please, let us know what they say.

I have this ominous feeling that you may have to send your unit back for service, but, I hope not.

Anyway,

Best of luck!

Dave

Posted January 16, 2013 link

The err3 went away on it's own. I'll try to replicate before I call Breville.

My machines turns on around 6:30 am, I usually pull 4 doubles a day, with 3 steam sessions.  I turn it off manually around 3-4pm

After pulling and steaming milk for the last shot of day, I perform a water backflush (press 2X cup and perform the pf wiggle routine, then backflush twice with the pf fully engaged and pressing the 1X cup button. - same as the video posted here)

I also do chemical blackfush on Friday's, with the clean me function, in addition to removing the tank and washing it with a weak dish soap solution..
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Posted Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:20am
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

Got my 900XL in yesterday after some border crossing craziness delayed shipping a bit. Got the vario dialed in pretty well - will need to play around a bit more. I do intend to use the manual button the most, however I was noticing that hitting the 1cup automatic volume button would result in the extraction starting and then cutting off as soon as the pressure gauge ramped up. Is this common?
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Posted Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:10pm
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

cafeespresso Said:

The err3 went away on it's own. I'll try to replicate before I call Breville.

After pulling and steaming milk for the last shot of day, I perform a water backflush (press 2X cup and perform the pf wiggle routine, then backflush twice with the pf fully engaged and pressing the 1X cup button. - same as the video posted here)

I also do chemical blackfush on Friday's, with the clean me function, in addition to removing the tank and washing it with a weak dish soap solution..

Posted January 17, 2013 link

And I thought that I was anal! lmao

Sounds good man. I hope that the error is merely a minor thing, but keep us posted.

Cheers,

Dave

 
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Posted Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:57pm
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cblais19 Said:

Got my 900XL in yesterday after some border crossing craziness delayed shipping a bit. Got the vario dialed in pretty well - will need to play around a bit more. I do intend to use the manual button the most, however I was noticing that hitting the 1cup automatic volume button would result in the extraction starting and then cutting off as soon as the pressure gauge ramped up. Is this common?

Posted January 17, 2013 link

Yes, it's common, they all seem to come from the factory with fairly random settings for the 1 and 2 cup buttons. Mostly, we don't use them.

 
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Posted Thu Jan 17, 2013, 1:04pm
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Park_Ridge_Dave Said:

And I thought that I was anal! lmao

Sounds good man. I hope that the error is merely a minor thing, but keep us posted.

Cheers,

Dave

Posted January 17, 2013 link

There was a another guy with ERR3 issues on three different machines, and he was an over-cleaner too. I don't know if the over-cleaning was the cause, but it may be.

 
"I've Scaced many HX/E61 machines, seeing shot variances of up to 8-10F or more. [The BDB] stays within 1F." - Mark Prince
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Posted Thu Jan 17, 2013, 1:42pm
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

cblais19 Said:

Got my 900XL in yesterday after some border crossing craziness delayed shipping a bit. Got the vario dialed in pretty well - will need to play around a bit more. I do intend to use the manual button the most, however I was noticing that hitting the 1cup automatic volume button would result in the extraction starting and then cutting off as soon as the pressure gauge ramped up. Is this common?

Posted January 17, 2013 link

The way I see it, unless you're using the same espresso day after day, it's more of a hassle to set up the automatic buttons than its worth. And if you're anywhere near as anal as I am about control over your extractions, you'll get frustrated when it cuts off just a couple seconds early or a couple seconds late. But then it's too late. I think it's a lot less work to just use the manual buttons. Unless you don't care, then it's REALLY easy. :)

-Dave-
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Posted Thu Jan 17, 2013, 3:33pm
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BubbaDude Said:

There was a another guy with ERR3 issues on three different machines, and he was an over-cleaner too. I don't know if the over-cleaning was the cause, but it may be.

Posted January 17, 2013 link

I was thinking about this as well. What cleaning routine are you following?
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Posted Thu Jan 17, 2013, 6:06pm
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phil mcknight says:

-clear water backflush every "session", whatever that means

-chemical clean with cafetto or cafiza, every kg or so of beans

-peter
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Posted Thu Jan 17, 2013, 7:08pm
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cafeespresso Said:

I was thinking about this as well. What cleaning routine are you following?

Posted January 17, 2013 link

I do a clean water backflush about once a week and the soap clean when notified. I often pre-flush, so I figure I'm doing the soap clean twice as often as Breville recommends.

I make 4 shots a day, and I doubt more frequent cleaning is necessary.

 
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