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doug_s
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Joined: 8 Oct 2010
Posts: 21
Location: earth
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: livia 90 & gaggia classic
Grinder: baratza vario & preciso
Drip: bodum french press

Posted Wed Jan 23, 2013, 9:17am
Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread

washburned Said:

He was not aware of the change until I told him as far as I could tell.

On another note I think I am finally getting used to the machine. I am consistently getting good shots and the steaming is coming along too.

Posted January 17, 2013 link

i was yust on the 1st line website today. (checking out the mystery washer.) if you look at the a006 cuadra's, it still says the v2's have an insulated boiler...

these cuadra's do look like nice machines. but, i doubt they would be an upgrade from my pasquini livia. i think i need to start saving my pennies for a quickmill qm67...

doug .

MDiddy
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Joined: 3 Oct 2012
Posts: 89
Location: PA
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: La Nuova Era Cuadra ii
Grinder: Baratza Vario
Drip: Cuisinart DCC-1200

Posted Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:20am Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread

Guys, Using the machines for a week now, I've found i still have an odd smell/taste on water coming from the boiler (stream and hot water). I've run at least a gallon through both over the course of the week, but it doesn't seem to be dissipating. It's an odd smell. Not bad, just off. Anything i can do to stop it?

MDiddy
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Joined: 3 Oct 2012
Posts: 89
Location: PA
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: La Nuova Era Cuadra ii
Grinder: Baratza Vario
Drip: Cuisinart DCC-1200

Posted Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:36am Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread

One other question. Could any of you with the V1 version (non insulated boiler) and V2 version (insulated boiler) please let me know what your PStat cycles are are? How long is it on/off? I'd like to see if there is an actual difference in boiler insulation. If the Pstat actually does cycle less with the insulated boiler, I may go ahead and insulate it myself.

1stline
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Joined: 24 Jan 2002
Posts: 393
Location: Freehold, NJ USA
Expertise: Professional

Espresso: Undisclosed
Grinder: Indisclosed
Vac Pot: Bodum Electric
Drip: None
Roaster: None

Posted Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:57am Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread

MDiddy Said: Guys, Using the machines for a week now, I've found i still have an odd smell/taste on water coming from the boiler (stream and hot water). I've run at least a gallon through both over the course of the week, but it doesn't seem to be dissipating. It's an odd smell. Not bad, just off. Anything i can do to stop it? Posted January 23, 2013 link Milk is probably your culprit here.

Sincerely, Jim Piccinich Business Partner 1st-line Equipment, LLC www.1st-line.com Follow us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/1stline Twitter: http://twitter.com/1stline Blog: http://1st-line.blogspot.com/ YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/1stlineespresso

1stline
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Posted Thu Jan 24, 2013, 12:03pm Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread

1stline Said: Milk is probably your culprit here. Posted January 24, 2013 link I just checked with the tech. It can also be your water reacting with the new metal. What type of water are you using? Have you changed it to see if this resolved it?

Sincerely, Jim Piccinich Business Partner 1st-line Equipment, LLC www.1st-line.com Follow us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/1stline Twitter: http://twitter.com/1stline Blog: http://1st-line.blogspot.com/ YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/1stlineespresso

1stline
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Posted Thu Jan 24, 2013, 12:07pm Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread

doug_s Said: i was yust on the 1st line website today. (checking out the mystery washer.) if you look at the a006 cuadra's, it still says the v2's have an insulated boiler... these cuadra's do look like nice machines. but, i doubt they would be an upgrade from my pasquini livia. i think i need to start saving my pennies for a quickmill qm67... doug . Posted January 23, 2013 link Doug, Since you are not that far away (should be less than a 4 hour drive unless you moved), you are more than welcome to visit and check out the Cuadra in person. And, yes, my programmer made an oversight in not correcting the 'other' pages about the insulation. My apologies.

Sincerely, Jim Piccinich Business Partner 1st-line Equipment, LLC www.1st-line.com Follow us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/1stline Twitter: http://twitter.com/1stline Blog: http://1st-line.blogspot.com/ YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/1stlineespresso

MDiddy
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Joined: 3 Oct 2012
Posts: 89
Location: PA
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: La Nuova Era Cuadra ii
Grinder: Baratza Vario
Drip: Cuisinart DCC-1200

Posted Thu Jan 24, 2013, 12:13pm
Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread

1stline Said:

I just checked with the tech. It can also be your water reacting with the new metal. What type of water are you using? Have you changed it to see if this resolved it?

Posted January 24, 2013 link

Jim,

The water I'm using is fridge filtered and then also Brita filtered to help reduce some of the hardness. My water is on the harder side, but nothing outrageous. I haven't tested it, but I don't think it is anything THAT bad.

As for milk, I don't think that's it. It's not a bad/foul smell. More like a metallic kind of odor. I pretty religious and wiping and purging the wand after steaming.

Posted Thu Jan 24, 2013, 1:09pm
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1stline Said:

Doug,

Since you are not that far away (should be less than a 4 hour drive unless you moved), you are more than welcome to visit and check out the Cuadra in person. And, yes, my programmer made an oversight in not correcting the 'other' pages about the insulation. My apologies.

Posted January 24, 2013 link

hey jim,

no problem re: the website insulation issue - i was simply giving you a heads-up. i know that the v2 info was changed some time ago - i only knew about the supposed boiler insulation from the a006 page...

re: the cuadra, i have no doubts it's a superb machine, especially for the money. but you (1st line) sell(s) the pasquini livia 90 - do *you* think the cuadra would be a worthwhile upgrade?

thanks,

doug

MDiddy
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Joined: 3 Oct 2012
Posts: 89
Location: PA
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: La Nuova Era Cuadra ii
Grinder: Baratza Vario
Drip: Cuisinart DCC-1200

Posted Thu Jan 24, 2013, 2:43pm
Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread

doug_s Said:

Posted January 24, 2013 link

Doug,

I'm not Jim (obviously) but IMO, it's up in the air if the features are an upgrade for you. You can look at a few things:

E61 Group - This may be worth the upgrade alone. It really does make for a great shot.
Larger Boiler - 1.8 vs. 1.3 L.
Looks - The Livia is a great machine, but looks a bit dated.
Price - I've looked, and you're not going to find another E61 HX machine for anywhere close to this price. The next closest is going to be the QM Anita for about 500.00 more.

Having had the machine for about 2 weeks now, I can honestly say I'm in love. I'm not pulling a God Shot, but the ones I am pulling are very, very good. A big step up from my Breville 840.

For all the minor quibbles you hear about with this machine, you can always come back to the price. Once you realize what you're actually getting for the money, IMO, it's a no brainer.

tdifraia
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Joined: 13 Dec 2012
Posts: 77
Location: Boston
Expertise: Just starting

Espresso: QM67
Grinder: Baratza Vario
Drip: Bunn

Posted Thu Jan 24, 2013, 4:41pm
Subject: Re: La Nuova Era Cuadra Owners Thread

E61 HX .... Expobars Office Lever can be taken for the same price.

MDiddy Said:

Doug,

Price - I've looked, and you're not going to find another E61 HX machine for anywhere close to this price. The next closest is going to be the QM Anita for about 500.00 more.

For all the minor quibbles you hear about with this machine, you can always come back to the price. Once you realize what you're actually getting for the money, IMO, it's a no brainer.

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