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misticms
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Posted Sun Feb 10, 2013, 8:25am
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I am considering buying an Oscar, but what concerns me is the hassle that is portrayed on YouTube for descaling the machine.  Is this the only way one can descale this machine?  This machine seems rock solid, but I also want something that is somewhat easy to maintain.  Thanks for your feedback.

Chris
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Posted Sun Feb 10, 2013, 8:52am
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I dont own an Oscar but I cant think of any machine that doesnt need cleaning once in awhile.
I cant think of one nice thing I own that I dont take care of.


http://www.home-barista.com/espresso-machine-cleaning.html

misticms Said:

I am considering buying an Oscar, but what concerns me is the hassle that is portrayed on YouTube for descaling the machine.  Is this the only way one can descale this machine?  This machine seems rock solid, but I also want something that is somewhat easy to maintain.  Thanks for your feedback.

Chris

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Markarian
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Roaster: Behmor 1600
Posted Sun Feb 10, 2013, 11:05am
Subject: Re: Attention:  NS Oscar Owners
 

Descaling Oscar involves running water through both the HX (easy as turning the pump on) and letting the boiler empty and refill repeatedly with water (tedious).

What I did was remove the steam tip, tip Oscar sideways over the sink, and let the boiler drain out before letting it refill again. It was easy, but slow going and took about an hour. This is not something you have to do every day, so take heart. Chances are if you're looking into the Oscar you want a heat exchanger, but you're not in the shiny e61 cube tax bracket. Don't get turned off the Oscar just because descaling it is a pain (it is). Today is hopefully a big day for Oscar owners. Stay tuned.
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Posted Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:08pm
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Chris, descaling is pretty much a PITA on any machine.  (I don't own an Oscar either, but I own three HX machines.)  It's not something one needs to do often, and using the proper water to be gin with can and will go a long way to, shall we say "s-t-r-e-t-c-h-i-n-g" the interval between descalings?  Routine maintenance is crucial, and you will need to backflush your machine, to keep your baskets and portafilters clean, etc., etc., but descaling isn't something I'd obsess over.

 
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Posted Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:44pm
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Markarian Said:

Today is hopefully a big day for Oscar owners. Stay tuned.

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OOHHHH what's the exciting news???

 
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misticms
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Posted Sun Feb 10, 2013, 1:04pm
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Okay ya got my curiosity up now, too.  Before I plunk my hard earned $$ down, are they planning to come out with a new Oscar?

Oh for those that have commented on the descale stuff, I don't plan on doing it more than once or twice a year, as my water is pretty good (low count of those bad minerals (very soft) - yea) but I've had espresso machines since the 90s, so am not totally naive.

Chris
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Posted Sun Feb 10, 2013, 1:20pm
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misticms Said:

I am considering buying an Oscar, but what concerns me is the hassle that is portrayed on YouTube for descaling the machine.  Is this the only way one can descale this machine?  This machine seems rock solid, but I also want something that is somewhat easy to maintain.  Thanks for your feedback.

Chris

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Yes the balancing act of draining the boiler through the steam wand propped up on the left front leg is a PIA. Oscar does have a drain plug on the boiler it just would drain into the case as is, you can add a shut off valve and cut a hole in the case for a drain line for emptying the boiler.
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Posted Sun Feb 10, 2013, 9:13pm
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Thats just a bit ridiculous dont you think? What were they thinking?

germantownrob Said:

Yes the balancing act of draining the boiler through the steam wand propped up on the left front leg is a PIA. Oscar does have a drain plug on the boiler it just would drain into the case as is, you can add a shut off valve and cut a hole in the case for a drain line for emptying the boiler.

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Roaster: Behmor 1600
Posted Mon Feb 11, 2013, 5:08am
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No, it's not a new Oscar. It's a big video me, Coffeenoobie, and Plindy did of a complete teardown of two different Oscars. We address a lot of topics in the video and are hoping others can benefit from this huge project. But if you're thinking of buying the Oscar, I can definitely give it my vote!
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Posted Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:07am
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For all the work you do to open the Oscar to drain it you might as well do a full descale.  I thought my boiler sock would be fine because it has only seen a year of full service.  I was wrong and the sock fell a part when touched.  The inside of my machine looked pretty good I think for a year of use.  Even though it is a 2009 it was not on much before I bought it a year ago.

We moded him up and will be writing up what we did with photos and video soon.

 
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