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Posted Tue Feb 19, 2013, 9:05pm
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread
 

Folks.

I do not want to lock down this thread. But I will ask you all to keep the comments above the belt and civil. As an example, calling someone delusional does nothing to engage positive discussion (I'm pointing this at you, cuznvin).

Unless people can engage positively in this thread, we'll start doing some more heavy moderating here - including giving site time outs (you won't be able to log in for a day or three days, or a week) strikes, or more.

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Posted Wed Feb 20, 2013, 5:06am
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AlexKilpatrick Said:

I'm going to buck the trend and ask an actual question about this machine.

I've been happy with my shots, occasionally getting exceptional ones.  I'd like to do some experimentation with temp, preinfusion and/or pressure.  I've heard that temp has the biggest impact.  Should I try 2 degrees, or is 1 degree enough to detect a change in the taste?

Posted February 19, 2013 link

Alex,

I normally use beans from a local Chicago Roaster (Metropolis Red Line Espresso). The roaster recommends 201 deg F and that's what I set mine for. I have played around moving the temp up 1 more degree and down to 199 degrees. I like the 201 best. other info, I have been using the Breville supplied double basket (single wall) and I weigh each shot to 18.0 grams (I got one of those $15.00 scales that reads to 0.1 g).

I then tamp with the BDB tamper until it bottoms out on the filter ridge. The times that I get with a default  preinfusion setup are 26 to 28 sec TOTAL TIME (I watch for the blonding). I adjust the grind to get 9 bar during the extraction phase.

Anyway, I find that the shots that I get are great! Indeed, I am so spoiled that I had to pass on the espresso at one of my favorite italian restaurants the other night. Theirs was terrible (I think some stale beans).

YMMV :D

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Posted Wed Feb 20, 2013, 5:08am
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MarkPrince Said:

Folks.

I do not want to lock down this thread. But I will ask you all to keep the comments above the belt and civil. As an example, calling someone delusional does nothing to engage positive discussion (I'm pointing this at you, cuznvin).

Unless people can engage positively in this thread, we'll start doing some more heavy moderating here - including giving site time outs (you won't be able to log in for a day or three days, or a week) strikes, or more.

Regards

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Thank you Mark!

 
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Posted Wed Feb 20, 2013, 7:52am
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mcknightp Said:

Well, I may have a different role at Breville, & have less time to look in on CG & other forums, I still do where possible.

Now, how may I assist???

Cheers, Phil

Posted February 19, 2013 link

Wow, Kudos to Breville and Phil for doing the right thing for BubbaDude.  I hope the new role is a promotion!
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Posted Wed Feb 20, 2013, 9:31am
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I hope they fix Bubba's machine.  I am sorry for the other home owners getting the run around without this forum.  (I am sure there are others getting the same song and dance that he was on the phone)

 
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Posted Wed Feb 20, 2013, 9:42am
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JonR10 Said:

You are entitled to your conjecture, but I can confirm that your assumption is completely unfounded and inaccurate.  The story we got was that they were working on a website upgrade for reviews and the developers screwed the CG management and are now the subject of legal action.  

CG is searching for someone to do the work:
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Meanwhile, reviews of the CC1 and Ceado Grinder were never published and the delay has been so long that those writings are now outdated (Ceado is reviewed elsewhere and CC1 has a design update).

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Ok I am sorry for being a bit cynical in my opinion of what happened with the CC1 road trip.  Thanks for the clarification.

 
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Posted Wed Feb 20, 2013, 9:44am
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AlexKilpatrick Said:

Wow, Kudos to Breville and Phil for doing the right thing for BubbaDude.  I hope the new role is a promotion!

Posted February 20, 2013 link

Yes that's great and I am happy for Bubba too! Also, according to Mr. Phil, he said that there is a version 2 AND a version 3 of the BDB coming out this year!

 
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Posted Wed Feb 20, 2013, 12:33pm
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hotwasabipeas Said:

Yes that's great and I am happy for Bubba too! Also, according to Mr. Phil, he said that there is a version 2 AND a version 3 of the BDB coming out this year!

Posted February 20, 2013 link

I'd like to hear more about these different versions!  I was planning on picking up a BDB this year, but was concerned after BubbaDude's recent experience.
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Posted Wed Feb 20, 2013, 12:37pm
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tinytot2 Said:

I'd like to hear more about these different versions!  I was planning on picking up a BDB this year, but was concerned after BubbaDude's recent experience.

Posted February 20, 2013 link

It would be nice if they decide to make the new versions someplace other than China.
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Posted Wed Feb 20, 2013, 12:50pm
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cuznvin Said:

It would be nice if they decide to make the new versions someplace other than China.

Posted February 20, 2013 link

Agreed, but isn't Baratza manufactured in China (Taiwan)?
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