Our Valued Sponsor
OpinionsConsumer ReviewsGuides and How TosCoffeeGeek ReviewsResourcesForums
Espresso: Espresso Machines
Silvia alternative
Rancilio Silvia - How to
Step by step guide for easy brewing and steaming with the Rancilio Silvia
www.seattlecoffeegear.com
 
Not Logged in: Log In to Postlog in
New Topics updated topics   New Posts new posts   Unanswered Posts new unanswered  
Search Discussion Board search   Discussion Board FAQ faq   Signup sign up  
Discussions > Espresso > Machines > Silvia...  
view previous topic | view next topic | view all topics
showing page 1 of 2 last page next page
Author Messages
bogeybutler
Senior Member


Joined: 1 Mar 2013
Posts: 6
Location: Dallas
Expertise: Just starting

Posted Fri Mar 1, 2013, 12:25pm
Subject: Silvia alternative
 

I have been looking into buy a Silvia along with the Rocky grinder, but have read several reviews about the Silvia and the temperature issues.  I was considering buying the Silvia with the PID, but was not sure if that was still the best option for the money.  I think I am sold on the Rocky grinder but just not sure if it is worth around $900 for the Silvia with the PID.  Should I be considering other options?
back to top
 View Profile Link to this post
CMIN
Senior Member


Joined: 14 Jun 2012
Posts: 1,354
Location: South FL
Expertise: I like coffee

Espresso: Crossland CC1
Grinder: Baratza Preciso
Posted Fri Mar 1, 2013, 12:39pm
Subject: Re: Silvia alternative
 

Don't bother with the Rocky, wide steps, and even when modded it's finicky trying to dial in. Look at the Baratza Preciso, or Baratza Vario for the $$.

Silvia isn't worth it new with PID added, that puts it within range of getting into entry H/X machines that will far out perform it, or even something like the Quickmill Silvano. Crossland CC1 has full pid control built in and a separate thermoblock for steaming for what the Silvia cost new. Le'Lit has a cheaper PID one too. And if you don't mind used, you can check the forums for sale like on here, or refurb models on reseller sites etc as you can end up with a killer machine for the the Silvia PID will be new. Problem with the Silvia is Rancillio has just kinda left it as is all these years at a high price for what it is, it used to cost almost half what it does now which made it a great offer before. Now others have been making better options with more function for cheaper or same price. Could even go Gaggia Classic PID.
back to top
 View Profile Link to this post
tglodjo
Senior Member
tglodjo
Joined: 16 Oct 2012
Posts: 209
Location: Jackson, TN
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: La Spaziale Mini Vivaldi II
Grinder: Baratza Vario, Virtuoso
Drip: Wave, V60, Chemex, Clever
Roaster: Behmor 1600
Posted Fri Mar 1, 2013, 12:43pm
Subject: Re: Silvia alternative
 

Yes, consider other options. The Silvia has a proven track record, but in all actuality, it is outdated. There are better machines in its class now. Try looking at the Crossland CC1. If your budget is up to the $900 range, check out some heat exchangers so you can brew and steam at the same time. Last time I checked, Chris' Coffee had an Oscar on their Buyer's Remorse page for $850. Also consider the La Nuova Era Cuadra or the Quickmill Silvano: both in the $900-1,000 range. The Rocky grinder is also outdated. For a similar price, I'd look at the Baratza Preciso. I own a Vario, and it is perfect for my espresso and pour over needs.
back to top
 View Profile Link to this post
D4F
Senior Member


Joined: 15 Mar 2012
Posts: 1,979
Location: USA
Expertise: I like coffee

Espresso: Gaggia Classic PID
Grinder: Baratza Forte-AP
Posted Fri Mar 1, 2013, 12:44pm
Subject: Re: Silvia alternative
 

Welcome to CG.

If you are willing to do the PID, then Gaggia Classic and DIY PID with Auber stuff.  DIY PID not the kit for about $75 - $100, perhaps less, depending on what you have on hand.  We can probably be of more help if you specify your experience and desired use.  Drinks/day and drinks/session.

 
D4F also at
http://www.gaggiausersgroup.com/
back to top
 View Profile Link to this post
tglodjo
Senior Member
tglodjo
Joined: 16 Oct 2012
Posts: 209
Location: Jackson, TN
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: La Spaziale Mini Vivaldi II
Grinder: Baratza Vario, Virtuoso
Drip: Wave, V60, Chemex, Clever
Roaster: Behmor 1600
Posted Fri Mar 1, 2013, 12:45pm
Subject: Re: Silvia alternative
 

Saw the CMIN posted at the same time as me. Glad to have some consensus without even reading another response :)
back to top
 View Profile Link to this post
CMIN
Senior Member


Joined: 14 Jun 2012
Posts: 1,354
Location: South FL
Expertise: I like coffee

Espresso: Crossland CC1
Grinder: Baratza Preciso
Posted Fri Mar 1, 2013, 12:48pm
Subject: Re: Silvia alternative
 

tglodjo Said:

Saw the CMIN posted at the same time as me. Glad to have some consensus without even reading another response :)

Posted March 1, 2013 link

Yeh if you can find a used one and do the PID yourself to save money, that's a good deal for most home users not making a bunch of shots and milk drinks daily. But I can't see why some people pay for it new with PID added, if you can already spend that on an outdated machine, you may as well pony up a tiny bit more for the entry H/X and other machines that will way outperform it.
back to top
 View Profile Link to this post
D4F
Senior Member


Joined: 15 Mar 2012
Posts: 1,979
Location: USA
Expertise: I like coffee

Espresso: Gaggia Classic PID
Grinder: Baratza Forte-AP
Posted Fri Mar 1, 2013, 12:56pm
Subject: Re: Silvia alternative
 

Look at the post and questions from Jason, JBL, on page 1 of this thread.  These questions and answers are very useful.

http://coffeegeek.com/forums/espresso/machines/616450

 
D4F also at
http://www.gaggiausersgroup.com/
back to top
 View Profile Link to this post
bogeybutler
Senior Member


Joined: 1 Mar 2013
Posts: 6
Location: Dallas
Expertise: Just starting

Posted Fri Mar 1, 2013, 2:00pm
Subject: Re: Silvia alternative
 

Thanks for the quick feedback...looks like I have a little more research to do.
back to top
 View Profile Link to this post
takeshi
Senior Member
takeshi
Joined: 12 Oct 2002
Posts: 961
Location: Houston
Expertise: I live coffee

Espresso: Alex Duetto 3.0
Grinder: Super Jolly
Roaster: Amaya Roasting
Posted Fri Mar 1, 2013, 2:06pm
Subject: Re: Silvia alternative
 

bogeybutler Said:

Should I be considering other options?

Posted March 1, 2013 link

Definitely do not consider the Rocky.  If you're doing research then make note of the dates of what you're reading.  The Rocky hasn't been recommended for quite some time.

bogeybutler Said:

I was considering buying the Silvia with the PID, but was not sure if that was still the best option for the money.

Posted March 1, 2013 link

If you're looking for value for money it isn't the best option.  Again, consider the age of what you're reading.  Years ago the pair would have been highly recommended but they're generally regarded as overpriced these days.  Allocate more of your funds on a better grinder.  If your overall budget is fixed there are plenty of other good SBDU's out there to consider.  If you have some flexibility then, as stated above, $900 puts you close to the HX price range.
back to top
 View Profile Link to this post
D4F
Senior Member


Joined: 15 Mar 2012
Posts: 1,979
Location: USA
Expertise: I like coffee

Espresso: Gaggia Classic PID
Grinder: Baratza Forte-AP
Posted Fri Mar 1, 2013, 2:14pm
Subject: Re: Silvia alternative
 

One other great resource.  #12, buts lots of info in the whole thread.

12 - EASY GUIDE TO BETTER ESPRESSO AT HOME

http://www.frcndigital.com/coffee/HowToEspresso.html

 
D4F also at
http://www.gaggiausersgroup.com/
back to top
 View Profile Link to this post
showing page 1 of 2 last page next page
view previous topic | view next topic | view all topics
Discussions > Espresso > Machines > Silvia...  
New Topics updated topics   New Posts new posts   Unanswered Posts new unanswered     Search Discussion Board search   Discussion Board FAQ faq   Signup sign up  
Not Logged in: Log In to Postlog in
Discussions Quick Jump:
Symbols: New Posts= New Posts since your last visit      No New Posts= No New Posts since last visit     Go to most recent post= Newest post
Forum Rules:
No profanity, illegal acts or personal attacks will be tolerated in these discussion boards.
No commercial posting of any nature will be tolerated; only private sales by private individuals, in the "Buy and Sell" forum.
No SEO style postings will be tolerated. SEO related posts will result in immediate ban from CoffeeGeek.
No cross posting allowed - do not post your topic to more than one forum, nor repost a topic to the same forum.
Who Can Read The Forum? Anyone can read posts in these discussion boards.
Who Can Post New Topics? Any registered CoffeeGeek member can post new topics.
Who Can Post Replies? Any registered CoffeeGeek member can post replies.
Can Photos be posted? Anyone can post photos in their new topics or replies.
Who can change or delete posts? Any CoffeeGeek member can edit their own posts. Only moderators can delete posts.
Probationary Period: If you are a new signup for CoffeeGeek, you cannot promote, endorse, criticise or otherwise post an unsolicited endorsement for any company, product or service in your first five postings.
Donate to Coffee Kids
Coffee Kids works with farming communities around the world, improving lives. Donate today.
www.coffeekids.org
Home | Opinions | Consumer Reviews | Guides & How Tos | CoffeeGeek Reviews | Resources | Forums | Contact Us
CoffeeGeek.com, CoffeeGeek, and Coffee Geek, along with all associated content & images are copyright ©2000-2014 by Mark Prince, all rights reserved, unless otherwise indicated. Content, code, and images may not be reused without permission. Usage of this website signifies agreement with our Terms and Conditions. (0.430085897446)
Privacy Policy | Copyright Info | Terms and Conditions | CoffeeGeek Advertisers | RSS | Find us on Google+