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AlexKilpatrick
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Posted Sat Mar 23, 2013, 7:37pm
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler vs CC1
 

Iluvdabean Said:

I agree with you on the title,its seems a bit leading and suggestive. I mean to me the BDB part could have been left out and
what might have been an alternative would be, Is the CC1 a good machine for 2 people in an office? Maybe before this
does go south the OP would let you change the title or start over. I dont see what it has to do with the BDB really. Its more about the office and
a unit that will meet certain requirements and expectations.

Posted March 23, 2013 link

It's a tricky title, but I was more interested in trying to find out how much of a "downgrade" it will be from a BDB to a CC1, since the BDB is what I have experience with.  The BDB part is relevant, because I am happy with that machine, and if there is something about the CC1 that will give me fundamentally poorer results than the CC1, I would like to know that before I bite the bullet.

The office part really isn't all that relevant since I am effectively using it in a 2 person office.  I just wanted to explain why I was having two machines.
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Posted Sat Mar 23, 2013, 7:57pm
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler vs CC1
 

Alex I wont adress that question in relation to BDB since I am biased. I will say this and leave it at that, if it were me and i was looking for a machine to meet that requirement
it would hands down be the Silvia V3. I would rather temp surf if I needed to and have a machine thats going to last a long long time and with the right person makes espresso
to die for. Im weird that way though,I like tried and true designs and  long track records.The Silvia is legendary it truly is.
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Posted Sat Mar 23, 2013, 8:11pm
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler vs CC1
 

I have a BDB at home and at the office, but I have owned a Silvia and a PIDed Lelit. I'd prefer ANYTHING with a PID over a Silvia without.

I haven't used the CC1, but it sounds like a good machine for the price. If there are only 2 of you, you might want consider the Lelit PL4TEM (has PID) to save more money - this is a business, right? Once you get any of these machines dialed in, the results will be very similar if you have a good grinder.
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Posted Sat Mar 23, 2013, 8:19pm
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler vs CC1
 

Alex, good job "moderating " your thread!
I wonder, as you really enjoy your BDB, maybe PM the powers that be at Breville, identify yourself as a VERY happy owner, explain your situation.
they might find you a like new refurb at a price too good to resist.
This way, your a happy camper at work, more productive, who knows?

 
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AlexKilpatrick
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Posted Sat Mar 23, 2013, 9:24pm
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler vs CC1
 

Alex, good job "moderating " your thread!
I wonder, as you really enjoy your BDB, maybe PM the powers that be at Breville, identify yourself as a VERY happy owner, explain your situation.
they might find you a like new refurb at a price too good to resist.
This way, your a happy camper at work, more productive, who knows?


I would buy a refurb BDB in a New York second, if I could buy it for the price of a CC1.  However, as much as I like the BDB, I am wondering whether I bought more than I needed.  I almost never steam and pour shots at the same time, because I want to observe the shot closely.  Given that, I am wondering whether the CC1 would have been good enough for me.  As I have learned more, the machines seem very similar.  The main functional difference that I can see is that the CC1 doesn't have a PID heated group head.  Everything else seems functionally identical.

It will be interesting to compare the machines side-by-side.
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Posted Sat Mar 23, 2013, 9:29pm
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler vs CC1
 

AlexKilpatrick Said:

I would buy a refurb BDB in a New York second, if I could buy it for the price of a CC1.  However, as much as I like the BDB, I am wondering whether I bought more than I needed.  I almost never steam and pour shots at the same time, because I want to observe the shot closely.  Given that, I am wondering whether the CC1 would have been good enough for me.  As I have learned more, the machines seem very similar.  The main functional difference that I can see is that the CC1 doesn't have a PID heated group head.  Everything else seems functionally identical.

It will be interesting to compare the machines side-by-side.

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Well, there is the fact that the Breville has a traditional boiler for steaming, as opposed to the thermoblock, and is feature laden.
That said, for the office, you may be onto something, and the designer/namesake of the C1 machine has a well earned reputation.
Now that I've confused you further. :>D

 
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AlexKilpatrick
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Posted Sat Mar 23, 2013, 9:47pm
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler vs CC1
 

IMAWriter Said:

Well, there is the fact that the Breville has a traditional boiler for steaming, as opposed to the thermoblock, and is feature laden.
That said, for the office, you may be onto something, and the designer/namesake of the C1 machine has a well earned reputation.
Now that I've confused you further. :>D

Posted March 23, 2013 link

My hunch is that the type of steaming is not all that critical, as long as it works.  Steam is steam.

Right now the CC1 is on sale at Seattle Coffee Gear for $700.  The BDB is $500 more.  As much as I like the BDB, I am not sure the additional features it has are worth $500 more, especially if they make equivalent shots.   The dual boiler is not anywhere near as big of a deal as I thought it would be.  The one big feature I would miss, though, is the easy front/top area to refill the tank.  I wish every machine had that; it is really convenient.
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Posted Sat Mar 23, 2013, 11:26pm
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler vs CC1
 

That will make work a whole lot more fun.

AlexKilpatrick Said:

My hunch is that the type of steaming is not all that critical, as long as it works.  Steam is steam.

Right now the CC1 is on sale at Seattle Coffee Gear for $700.  The BDB is $500 more.  As much as I like the BDB, I am not sure the additional features it has are worth $500 more, especially if they make equivalent shots.   The dual boiler is not anywhere near as big of a deal as I thought it would be.  The one big feature I would miss, though, is the easy front/top area to refill the tank.  I wish every machine had that; it is really convenient.

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Posted Sun Mar 24, 2013, 1:41am
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Get your office mate to kick in half, you get what you want and he gets good coffee for less than the corner shop and without the trip

Problem solved
YMMV.

 
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Posted Sun Mar 24, 2013, 9:36am
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I think that is a great idea.

 
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