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DavecUK
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Posted Fri Sep 6, 2013, 10:24am
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

cuznvin Said:

Guess they forgot to turn yours upside down when they packed it..

Posted September 6, 2013 link

Actually, one thing does occur to me regarding transit damage. In the US it's so much bigger and the package probably goes through lots of transit stations, including internal air freight. So I suppose there's a LOT more opportunity for rough handling than in the UK.
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DeanOK
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Posted Fri Sep 6, 2013, 3:18pm
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Hey!! Got my 4 hole tip.... maybe I can get my microfoam as good as my espresso... I will sure give it a try.
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JaniceAnn
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Posted Fri Sep 6, 2013, 3:21pm
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I am enjoying my coffee and so is my husband but I need to mention that I drink coffee with milk and sugar and he drinks coffee with sugar.

The coffees are much better than our drip coffee maker and better than the super automatics too but the straight espresso is rather bitter.  

I am just a beginner so I don't know how to proceed or just not bother since the end product is wonderful.  It is apparent that it is better because I am actually finishing my coffee while it is still hot instead of having it be ice cold and still quite a bit left in the mug as with the coffee from the drip coffee maker.

I am using 16 grams of beans for my coffee and my husband is using 18 grams.  The grinder is a Nuova Simonelli set at 7.5 at the zero mark.  It is a nice used grinder and can be changed at extremely
tiny increments.  We are single dosing.

The temperature is 202 degrees as shown on the PID.  I do have a timer but am unsure when to start timing.  Do I start when the lever is part way up, all the way up or when I see coffee start to come out?  

If I start the timer when I lift the lever to the full on position and turn it off at 25 seconds, I am getting 2.5 ounces of coffee.  

I am not sure if I need to make my grind a little coarser, a little finer or lessen the amount of beans I am grinding.

I am using Lavazza Super Crema and I would like to get a proper shot with that even though I know I need to start looking into getting more freshly roasted coffee beans.

Please keep your instructions on the simple side due to my lack of experience.

One other question please.  Is anyone planning to get the portafilter that CCS carries that is the same one that Dave tested and that comes with the Verona?  CCS only offers it as a double but we are only using the double for brewing and I put the blind basket in the single portafilter and use that for backflushing.  If anyone gets the other double portafilter please post and let us know what you think.

Thanks for all your help!
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JaniceAnn
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Posted Fri Sep 6, 2013, 3:23pm
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

DeanOK Said:

Hey!! Got my 4 hole tip.... maybe I can get my microfoam as good as my espresso... I will sure give it a try.

Posted September 6, 2013 link

I got an email from Mary today that mine is in the mail.  I can't help but do better with the four hole tip as I can't do anything with the two hole one.

Tell us how you like yours when you have a chance to try it out please, Dean.
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DeanOK
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Posted Fri Sep 6, 2013, 4:07pm
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

JaniceAnn Said:

I am enjoying my coffee and so is my husband but I need to mention that I drink coffee with milk and sugar and he drinks coffee with sugar.

The coffees are much better than our drip coffee maker and better than the super automatics too but the straight espresso is rather bitter.  

I am just a beginner so I don't know how to proceed or just not bother since the end product is wonderful.  It is apparent that it is better because I am actually finishing my coffee while it is still hot instead of having it be ice cold and still quite a bit left in the mug as with the coffee from the drip coffee maker.

I am using 16 grams of beans for my coffee and my husband is using 18 grams.  The grinder is a Nuova Simonelli set at 7.5 at the zero mark.  It is a nice used grinder and can be changed at extremely
tiny increments.  We are single dosing.

The temperature is 202 degrees as shown on the PID.  I do have a timer but am unsure when to start timing.  Do I start when the lever is part way up, all the way up or when I see coffee start to come out?  

If I start the timer when I lift the lever to the full on position and turn it off at 25 seconds, I am getting 2.5 ounces of coffee.  

I am not sure if I need to make my grind a little coarser, a little finer or lessen the amount of beans I am grinding.

I am using Lavazza Super Crema and I would like to get a proper shot with that even though I know I need to start looking into getting more freshly roasted coffee beans.

Please keep your instructions on the simple side due to my lack of experience.

One other question please.  Is anyone planning to get the portafilter that CCS carries that is the same one that Dave tested and that comes with the Verona?  CCS only offers it as a double but we are only using the double for brewing and I put the blind basket in the single portafilter and use that for backflushing.  If anyone gets the other double portafilter please post and let us know what you think.

Thanks for all your help!

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My lack of experience is showing here.. How old is the Lavazza? Is there a date on the bag?

All I can tell you is that I am currently dosing 18 grams (I am currently in the process of checking the accuracy and repeatability of my Vario W) and I try to get 30-32 grams in 28 seconds from first drip. I am using Redline that was froze 5 or 6 days post roast and I have my frozen coffee in small enough batches that I use it within 3 days of thawing it out.  With this coffee, this seems to be close to the best profile for me, but I always use milk... usually about 4 to 1.  I am currently at 200F on brew temp... but with a different coffee you may well be different on all of these numbers. I was thinking Lavazza was a darker roast than what I am using... not sure.

Your new . Experiment, ask a lot of questions and don't be too hard on yourself. You will get there.
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ECM
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Posted Fri Sep 6, 2013, 5:47pm
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

In terms of PF's I like the one that Cafelat has out.  It's a regular PF and a botomless PF all in one.  The PF handle is angled at 15* like the LM ones.  The PF's come in backlet or rubber handled.  Oh did I mention... they are completely 100% stainless steel inside and out.  This also includes the inner bowl which is usualy brass covered by metal which over time becomes stained with coffee oil.  Not these... they are totally stainless.  I would provide the link but I'm not sure if the Mods would approve.  

I am in no way associated with Cafelat.... I just want to be helpful to our members here on the form.
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DeanOK
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Posted Fri Sep 6, 2013, 6:10pm
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

ECM Said:

In terms of PF's I like the one that Cafelat has out.  It's a regular PF and a botomless PF all in one.  The PF handle is angled at 15* like the LM ones.  The PF's come in backlet or rubber handled.  Oh did I mention... they are completely 100% stainless steel inside and out.  This also includes the inner bowl which is usualy brass covered by metal which over time becomes stained with coffee oil.  Not these... they are totally stainless.  I would provide the link but I'm not sure if the Mods would approve.  

I am in no way associated with Cafelat.... I just want to be helpful to our members here on the form.

Posted September 6, 2013 link

I do not know why you couldn't, everyone else does (including me).
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cuznvin
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Posted Fri Sep 6, 2013, 6:10pm
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

ECM Said:

In terms of PF's I like the one that Cafelat has out.  It's a regular PF and a botomless PF all in one.  The PF handle is angled at 15* like the LM ones.  The PF's come in backlet or rubber handled.  Oh did I mention... they are completely 100% stainless steel inside and out.  This also includes the inner bowl which is usualy brass covered by metal which over time becomes stained with coffee oil.  Not these... they are totally stainless.  I would provide the link but I'm not sure if the Mods would approve.  

I am in no way associated with Cafelat.... I just want to be helpful to our members here on the form.

Posted September 6, 2013 link

easy to find with google!!  $110... too bad they dont have one for the mini...
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cuznvin
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Posted Fri Sep 6, 2013, 6:15pm
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

DeanOK Said:

I do not know why you couldn't, everyone else does (including me).

Posted September 6, 2013 link

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just go to cafelat..
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ECM
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Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada
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Espresso: Quick Mill Vetrano 2B
Grinder: Mazzer Robour E
Vac Pot: French Press
Drip: no
Roaster: Fresh Roast+8,  i-roast and...
Posted Fri Sep 6, 2013, 6:33pm
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

Yes but if you jsut want a bottomless is $85.00.  I like the 15* angle of the PF.  It helps to prevent dinging up the group head as a traditional PF puts your hand into an un-natural position.  My old group had several little dings from striking it with the PF when trying to insert the PF half asleap.
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