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cuznvin
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Posted Fri Jun 14, 2013, 5:28pm
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

BeerCan Said:

To me the led lights totally ruin the aesthetics of that machine.  Oh well, I am sure someone likes it.

Posted June 14, 2013 link

All you have to do is turn them off. I still think they are an option
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Posted Fri Jun 14, 2013, 6:15pm
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Being a woman probably means I am more partial for things just "for pretty" but I don't like the lights.

I wonder if the machine will be offered with the lights at additional cost or standard?

Of course,  as Cuznvin says,  they could be turned off but I would rather they were not there at all.
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Posted Sat Jun 15, 2013, 12:28am
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A few things have come up in this thread.

  1. Blue lights....err no, mine doesn't have them and I wouldn't specify them. My changes were more around things that really matter whether the consumer realises they do or not.....not LED lights. Things are expensive enough in the UK without adding cost. As for the aesthetics of blue lights, me personally, not my thing, but perhaps this sort of thing is more popular in the US? Ah, just seen the Faceebook page and the blue lights................hmm, probably would not be something that the reserved British users would want, but I could be wrong?

  2. Rotary pump leaking.....the pump in this is mounted exactly as I specified to Izzo 6 years ago (I was ignored)...It is an upside down cage mounted motor, with the pump at the bottom. This makes it less likely than ANY other pump configuration for a leak in the pump gland to damage the motor. I would say impossible, but nothings impossible. As Fluid-O-Tech specify their pump is mounted horizontally (because they never envisaged it being mounted on an upside down motor I guess), I also insisted that this mounting system was cleared officially with FOT pumps. QM have done this, it was partly to to cover any "sale of goods act" legal issues in the UK and partly to ensure there was nothing we had missed..

I must add that I have no real idea of the specification of the machine that Chris has got and what differences exist between the UK/US variants at this time.

It's a good machine....my difficulty is my review covers the one I have, but specifies what changes will be in the machines that will be eventually sold in the UK. It's a tricky one whether it's published without photos of those changes, or wait until photos are available.. The changes will not affect the external appearance at all, they are all engineering changes.....and most of them minor ones at that. Some of the delay was simply checking components that were new (at least new to me) and also a much revised PID!.
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Posted Sat Jun 15, 2013, 1:20am
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If  possible,  I would love to see a picture of the motor and pump setup.

I can't visualize it knowing so little about pumps or motors.

It almost sounds like it is just opposite the way the Duetto motor and pump are setup.

Thanks!
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Posted Sat Jun 15, 2013, 2:00am
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

I have seen the Vetrano on the CCS Facebook site . . . and the blue lights look pretty tacky to me!  It's an espresso machine, not a video game!  What were they thinking . . . ?
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Posted Sat Jun 15, 2013, 5:48am
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

Maybe this machine was supposed to go to California, you know-Groovy Man, Peace out.
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cuznvin
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Posted Sat Jun 15, 2013, 6:16am
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

sharky Said:

I have seen the Vetrano on the CCS Facebook site . . . and the blue lights look pretty tacky to me!  It's an espresso machine, not a video game!  What were they thinking . . . ?

Posted June 15, 2013 link

this isnt the only machine with LED lights on it.. DREAM and NS MUSICA  both have LED lights on them.
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cuznvin
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Posted Sat Jun 15, 2013, 6:28am
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

I guess the bottom line is.. Buy a machine that is well put together and has LED lights on it (that can be turned off) or buy a machine that isnt so well put together and doesnt have LED lights.. As Dave said... THIS machine is staying on his countertop. The others are put away.. That has to say something! The build quality and performance is what matters and CCS said they LOVE this machine!
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cuznvin
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Posted Sat Jun 15, 2013, 7:45am
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

Ok.. as per Chris regarding the LED lights

They come on the machine and can be turned on or left off.


So they are not an option. He will be putting something up on the website soon as he is working on some other things right now..
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Posted Sat Jun 15, 2013, 12:47pm
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

JaniceAnn Said:

If  possible,  I would love to see a picture of the motor and pump setup.

It almost sounds like it is just opposite the way the Duetto motor and pump are setup.

Thanks!

Posted June 15, 2013 link

It is the opposite way to the Duetto, picture of the QM Vetrano DB (or Verona in the UK) motor and pump....note the PID (top left) is above the "cool" motor and pump. I'm also loving this machine and mine does not have some of the improvements the machines will have when they go on sale! The little doohicky you see on the middle left (orange tip white body), that's the 12V transformer they run the PID from and no doubt also the LED lights on the US variant.

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