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cuznvin
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Posted Wed Mar 27, 2013, 9:51am
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

CSME9 Said:

Assuming the Vetrano 2B performs well and the price is right, i would not buy the QM 67.
The 2B has all the right features, unless you really needed the larger boilers. According to CCS they carry 8-9 DB's, maybe they should relook some of the near duplicate models.

Posted March 27, 2013 link

That's for sure. Four LA spaziales and two duettos. Only one choice for a db qm though.. seems off balance
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Posted Wed Mar 27, 2013, 10:44am
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I thought I had my list narrowed down to the Vibiemme DoubleDomo and Duetto and now this comes along. Although if it isn't planned on being released in the US I guess I shouldn't even be considering it.
I'm surprised it didn't pop up on the radar earlier. This German video was posted in Nov: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzjD0XrhF1E
My main hesitation would be the size of the steam boiler at 1L. After reading about much larger steam boilers running out of steaming power early I wonder how much milk this thing can handle when making multiple milk drinks at a time.
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Posted Wed Mar 27, 2013, 12:55pm
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DST Said:

I thought I had my list narrowed down to the Vibiemme DoubleDomo and Duetto and now this comes along. Although if it isn't planned on being released in the US I guess I shouldn't even be considering it.
I'm surprised it didn't pop up on the radar earlier. This German video was posted in Nov: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzjD0XrhF1E
My main hesitation would be the size of the steam boiler at 1L. After reading about much larger steam boilers running out of steaming power early I wonder how much milk this thing can handle when making multiple milk drinks at a time.

Posted March 27, 2013 link

Some peoples needs will dictate the need for a larger steaming boiler, but i think this machine with the right steam tip configuration & the 1400w heater should do well.
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Posted Wed Mar 27, 2013, 1:12pm
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Sonofa..

Now THAT is a quickmill DB I would have bought.


I choose the Duetto over the QM67 because it was 20amp, rotary driven.  But I love the Quickmill line and had been pleased with the prior two quickmills I owned.  They have great looks, and they're put together very well.  

If Chris has this machine next to a Duetto II, there would be no question I would have came home with the Quickmill Vetrano 2B instead of the Duetto.

I DO NOT regret my purchase, my Duetto is the best machine I have owned, and Im making amazing coffee.. Im just saying, if this was available at the time of purchase, I would own it already.

 
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cuznvin
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Posted Wed Mar 27, 2013, 1:17pm
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

Jmanespresso Said:

Sonofa..

Now THAT is a quickmill DB I would have bought.


I choose the Duetto over the QM67 because it was 20amp, rotary driven.  But I love the Quickmill line and had been pleased with the prior two quickmills I owned.  They have great looks, and they're put together very well.  

If Chris has this machine next to a Duetto II, there would be no question I would have came home with the Quickmill Vetrano 2B instead of the Duetto.

I DO NOT regret my purchase, my Duetto is the best machine I have owned, and Im making amazing coffee.. Im just saying, if this was available at the time of purchase, I would own it already.

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Maybe that is why he isnt carrying it! LOL... I really want this machine!!
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Posted Wed Mar 27, 2013, 1:23pm
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cuznvin Said:

Chris has too many duplicate machines IMHO.. Dream and Vivaldi are pretty much the same machine.

Posted March 25, 2013 link

Well, not exactly. Folks that absolutely are not considering a plumb in option, and want to save several hundred dollars, getting the exact same quality and features make the "T" version of the Dream a DIFFERENT option.
Not so with machines that do both, as you must pay the premium price for that.
AS I can't plumb in, I'd want the same machine without the plumb option if I could save several hundred bucks.
YMMV.
Who knows, down the line Chris may be called upon for his expertise by QM to "customize" the Vetrano DB.
My guess is, he has lots on his plate, Tons of machines of all features and price ranges, and is staying the course for now.

At this level, I highly doubt that there would be any real difference in the espresso produced. YMMV.

 
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cuznvin
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Posted Wed Mar 27, 2013, 1:31pm
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

IMAWriter Said:

Well, not exactly. Folks that absolutely are not considering a plumb in option, and want to save several hundred dollars, getting the exact same quality and features make the "T" version of the Dream a DIFFERENT option.
Not so with machines that do both, as you must pay the premium price for that.
AS I can't plumb in, I'd want the same machine without the plumb option if I could save several hundred bucks.
YMMV.
Who knows, down the line Chris may be called upon for his expertise by QM to "customize" the Vetrano DB.
My guess is, he has lots on his plate, Tons of machines of all features and price ranges, and is staying the course for now.

At this level, I highly doubt that there would be any real difference in the espresso produced. YMMV.

Posted March 27, 2013 link

Yes, but Dream T and Mini Vivaldi? Why keep both? There is hardly a difference in price. R58 is too expensive IMO.  People also like a quieter rotary pump. Plus the fit and finish of this machine is much nicer than the QM.
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Posted Wed Mar 27, 2013, 1:37pm
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Look I can get anything that Quick Mill makes it is not a problem. As the expression goes money talks. For those of you that are interested in the Vetrano DB simply give me a call with your credit card and I will order them for you, provided they are even being manufactured in 110 volt. Once all you anxious buyers call me and I have an idea of how many people are REALLY interested I will call Quick Mill and first be sure they are making them in 110 volt. Then once I have the total and the credit card I will order them for you. Simple.

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cuznvin
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Posted Wed Mar 27, 2013, 1:45pm
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

chriscoffee Said:

Look I can get anything that Quick Mill makes it is not a problem. As the expression goes money talks. For those of you that are interested in the Vetrano DB simply give me a call with your credit card and I will order them for you, provided they are even being manufactured in 110 volt. Once all you anxious buyers call me and I have an idea of how many people are REALLY interested I will call Quick Mill and first be sure they are making them in 110 volt. Then once I have the total and the credit card I will order them for you. Simple.

Chris Nachtrieb, Pres.
Chris' Coffee Service, Inc.

Posted March 27, 2013 link

How about you tell us how much they are going to cost and if they are 110 before we give you our credit card?
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Posted Wed Mar 27, 2013, 1:54pm
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

CSME9 Said:

Assuming the Vetrano 2B performs well and the price is right, i would not buy the QM 67.
The 2B has all the right features, unless you really needed the larger boilers. According to CCS they carry 8-9 DB's, maybe they should relook some of the near duplicate models.

Posted March 27, 2013 link

Why would you not buy the QM67?  What has your experience been with it?
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