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dougz
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Posted Tue Apr 9, 2013, 1:03pm
Subject: Tripping my breaker..
 

Does this just come with the territory (not using toaster, kettle at the same time as espresso machine), or do I have to upgrade my electrical system?

What are my options (just so I can look like I have some clue when I get an electrician over)?

Thanks!
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Posted Tue Apr 9, 2013, 1:58pm
Subject: Re: Tripping my breaker..
 

I have my espresso machine, my grinder, and my wife's Keurig coffee machine plugged into one (double) 15A outlet and we have no issues!  You may have issues with your outlet . . .



dougz Said:

Does this just come with the territory (not using toaster, kettle at the same time as espresso machine), or do I have to upgrade my electrical system?

What are my options (just so I can look like I have some clue when I get an electrician over)?

Thanks!

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Posted Tue Apr 9, 2013, 2:07pm
Subject: Re: Tripping my breaker..
 

We'd need to know more information.
What machine do you have, and do you know its rating?
What is the Amperage rating of your breaker, and are the outlets all on the same breaker?
Perhaps the fridge is on the same breaker? That would be bad, but it's not unheard of.
Does the breaker feel noticeably warm to the touch when you flip it back on?
Anything else powered on that would cause this if all the outlets were tied to one breaker?
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Posted Tue Apr 9, 2013, 2:24pm
Subject: Re: Tripping my breaker..
 

most important, does the breaker trip when you turn the machine on, if so there is a direct short in the machine. Most likely a shorted heating element
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Posted Tue Apr 9, 2013, 2:39pm
Subject: Re: Tripping my breaker..
 

What machine do you have, and do you know its rating?  BZ07, 1200 watt element

What is the Amperage rating of your breaker, and are the outlets all on the same breaker?  Unknown,  and I think so.  Not sure if fridge outlet is, though
Does the breaker feel noticeably warm to the touch when you flip it back on? I didn't notice, but if it happens again, I'll check
Anything else powered on that would cause this if all the outlets were tied to one breaker?  It's on a six plug adapter, but nothing else was being used of on it at the time (grinder, Technivorm, another grinder, stand mixer)

most important, does the breaker trip when you turn the machine on, if so there is a direct short in the machine. Most likely a shorted heating element

I wasn't there when it happened, my wife turned it on for me so it'd be ready in an hour's time.  But she was making breakfast for everyone, and must have turned on the kettle or the toaster after she turned the machine on, which are on seperate plugs.

I'll take a picture of the breaker board when I get home, and hopefully have more informed answers for you..

It wouldn't be impossible to work around, but annoying on busy mornings..
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Posted Tue Apr 9, 2013, 3:09pm
Subject: Re: Tripping my breaker..
 

Also, did it actually trip the breaker, or did it perhaps trip a GFCI outlet?

If it tripped the breaker, you must have gone and reset it on the panel.  It should be marked with a number that will tell us the amperage rating of that circuit.

If it tripped a GFCI outlet, then you pressed the button the receptacle itself (or one upstream of the dead outlet).

Knowing this could help analysis.

Your probable worst case current rating of the circuit is 15A.  Your 1200W element, by itself, and when working properly, should not trip a 15A breaker.  

Has this happened before?  How long have you been using this particular machine?
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Posted Tue Apr 9, 2013, 3:39pm
Subject: Re: Tripping my breaker..
 

It should be marked with a number that will tell us the amperage rating of that circuit.

This is what I need to check when I get home..

I just got the machine, and this is the first time it has happened.  It doesn't trip anything when working on it's own, only when using other heavy drawers like the tea kettle or toaster.

Would it be as easy as getting a 20A breaker?
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Posted Tue Apr 9, 2013, 3:48pm
Subject: Re: Tripping my breaker..
 

dougz Said:

Would it be as easy as getting a 20A breaker?

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Sure, if you want to burn your house down.  The breaker has to match the rating of the wiring.  If the wiring is rated for 15A then the largest breaker you can safely use is 15A.  It's safe to say your wiring is rated for 15A since that's the size of breaker.
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Posted Tue Apr 9, 2013, 4:03pm
Subject: Re: Tripping my breaker..
 

It's safe to say your wiring is rated for 15A since that's the size of breaker

Again, this is what I will have to check when I get home..
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Posted Tue Apr 9, 2013, 4:44pm
Subject: Re: Tripping my breaker..
 

As mentioned above, if it was the only thing on then you may have a machine issue as the machine is only 1200 w. The machine alone though pretty much takes up the whole circuit and if she used a toaster or other heavy draw appliances then it was too much load.

 
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