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didiee
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Posted Thu May 9, 2013, 6:33pm
Subject: Re: Yet another X vs Y vs Z (Cuadra II vs Bezzera BZ 07 vs Crossland CC1)
 

I think 1800 may have been a realistic budget. Even though the wifey said not  have any opinions, but had a lot of opinions.
They threw some stuff in, I did purchase a tamper, knockbox, milk pitcher.  Trying to figure out the best way to debacle the machine. Or I should just use the soften water to prevent build up later.   I also got the kit to at least test the hardness of my tap water.
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OttoMatic
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Espresso: Brewtus IV-R
Grinder: Mahlkönig K30 Vario,...
Drip: Capresso MT500+
Roaster: Cast iron dutch oven
Posted Thu May 9, 2013, 8:39pm
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Congrats, man!  I think you'll be happy, and will look forward to your analysis of the SJ (with which I have no experience).  Good call on the rotary pump, as it's quiet and ramps up to speed very quickly.  I don't recall the details of you situation, but I see that you're going to use a jug, which should be fine as long as it doesn't run dry.  Of course, if and when you can, plumb it in and you'll never look back.  Do let us know how it goes.
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didiee
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Posted Fri May 10, 2013, 9:39am
Subject: Re: Yet another X vs Y vs Z (Cuadra II vs Bezzera BZ 07 vs Crossland CC1)
 

Thanks ottmatic!
I have nothing else to compare to, but at least I can let you know if I like it.  But it may be a tall order compare to your K30.  I will probably get a grinder for french press later, if i cannot covert the wife to become an americano drinker.  At that time maybe I will compare the SJ to Baratza Presico, not a fair fight is it?
Did you pull the trigger on your E37?  

I am trying to find a way to leave the water bucket/jug/source above the machine, so it'll do a little less work.  Havent found a great solution yet.
I have a feeling that you have a plumb in with the whole filter/soften built in kind of set up.
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OttoMatic
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Espresso: Brewtus IV-R
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Roaster: Cast iron dutch oven
Posted Fri May 10, 2013, 11:35am
Subject: Re: Yet another X vs Y vs Z (Cuadra II vs Bezzera BZ 07 vs Crossland CC1)
 

Hey --

Dunno about the SJ vs the K30 -- the may give similar results, but the SJ was too tall for me.  I had only looked at the E37 as an alternative to the Mini-E, but then later ended up with the K30, which I think is superior to the E37, so I'm just going to stick with it.  I can't imagine I'd need something "better" than the K30, but give me a year and we'll see...

Yes, I'm plumbed in for both water and waste.  Basically I just drilled a hole in my countertop and did the plumbing work under the sink.  If you can even possibly do something similar, I recommend it 100%.  Filling and emptying jugs and reservoirs is hardly the end of the world, but now that I don't have to do it anymore, well, I just hope I don't have to go back to it.  I don't have a water softener, though -- the water in my town is pretty soft already, at least per the city's report.  It tastes clean and we have minimal (almost zero) deposits on shower heads, sinks, etc.  I don't remember the numbers, but I think our water is technically softer than what's considered optimal for coffee, so I just didn't bother.
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Posted Mon Sep 2, 2013, 12:38pm
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didiee, You totally need to report in on how you are doing and what you ended up with and why.

 
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