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CarloM
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Posted Fri Apr 19, 2013, 4:16pm
Subject: Re: McDonald's makes better Mochas than I do
 

If you go to McD's website and click on their nutritional value chart: click here

You see that if you choose a McCafe Latte with only espresso and no added sauces or syrups, there's already 15g of sugar in a medium latte with only milk and espresso checked off. Clicking on "add sugar packet" bumps it up to 19g.

So it looks like a very significant amount of sugar is already in their drink mix even if you asked for no sugar.

The favorable effects on the human palate of sugar is well known. It is no surprise that a lot of Americans (including my dad who loves all things sugar) prefer the McCafe drinks to anything I brew him at home unless I load it up with sugar.
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Posted Fri Apr 19, 2013, 4:18pm
Subject: Re: McDonald's makes better Mochas than I do
 

CarloM Said:

If you go to McD's website and click on their nutritional value chart: click here

You see that if you choose a McCafe Latte with only espresso and no added sauces or syrups, there's already 15g of sugar in a medium latte with only milk and espresso checked off. Clicking on "add sugar packet" bumps it up to 19g.

So it looks like a very significant amount of sugar is already in their drink mix even if you asked for no sugar.

The favorable effects on the human palate of sugar is well known. It is no surprise that a lot of Americans (including my dad who loves all things sugar) prefer the McCafe drinks to anything I brew him at home unless I load it up with sugar.

Posted April 19, 2013 link

Look at a milk container... Milk has natural sugars in it.  If no sugar is added where would you think the sugar comes from?
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Posted Fri Apr 19, 2013, 6:02pm
Subject: Re: McDonald's makes better Mochas than I do
 

This is a slow motion train wreck that just keeps on.  When your coffee making efforts are bested by McD's, just put a fork in it, your done. Go get your coffee fix at McD's.
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Posted Fri Apr 19, 2013, 6:12pm
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Frost Said:

This is a slow motion train wreck that just keeps on.  When your coffee making efforts are bested by McD's, just put a fork in it, your done. Go get your coffee fix at McD's.

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Two thumbs up!!
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Posted Fri Apr 19, 2013, 7:16pm
Subject: Re: McDonald's makes better Mochas than I do
 

DeanOK Said:

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The MD's has a much stronger coffee aroma when you hold the cup to your nose (nice).

Posted April 19, 2013 link

I had one on the ride home from work today.  It really was sweet.   I'm thinking it is strong coffee (not espresso)  with warm (not frothed) milk.  Lots of sugar. I smelled bitter chocolate, not coffee. It was super smooth, though.

Maybe you are frothing the milk too much?  Have you tried brewing extra strong coffee in place of espresso?  Dare I say they use a bit of powdered hit chocolate mix in there?

How many shots of espresso have you been using in your drinks? What sized drink are you making?
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Posted Fri Apr 19, 2013, 7:47pm
Subject: Re: McDonald's makes better Mochas than I do
 

tinytot2 Said:

How many shots of espresso have you been using in your drinks? What sized drink are you making?

Posted April 19, 2013 link

I make a double shot from 19 grams of freshly ground coffee. I have been experimenting with yield. I have varied anywhere from 20 grams to 40 grams of espresso. I always try to keep total shot time between 23 and 30 seconds. I usually add about 5-6 oz of milk.

tinytot2 Said:

Maybe you are frothing the milk too much?  Have you tried brewing extra strong coffee in place of espresso?  Dare I say they use a bit of powdered hit chocolate mix in there?

Posted April 19, 2013 link

I don't froth the milk much. I steam it and only introduce a small amount of air to make a very small foam.

I questioned them at MD's today. They assured me that their lattes and mochas were made with real espresso. When I questioned them about ratios and how much espresso they used to make the drink, they didn't know anything. The system is completely automated.

The aroma I was commenting on was from a plain latte with whole milk. No chocolate or flavors were added.
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Posted Fri Apr 19, 2013, 10:15pm
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It is a super auto and I bet very little if any crema.

 
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Posted Sat Apr 20, 2013, 4:01am
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tinytot2 Said:

I had one on the ride home from work today.  It really was sweet.   I'm thinking it is strong coffee (not espresso)  with warm (not frothed) milk.  Lots of sugar. I smelled bitter chocolate, not coffee. It was super smooth, though.

Maybe you are frothing the milk too much?  Have you tried brewing extra strong coffee in place of espresso?  Dare I say they use a bit of powdered hit chocolate mix in there?

How many shots of espresso have you been using in your drinks? What sized drink are you making?

Posted April 19, 2013 link

I posted all the ingredients in that drink..
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Posted Sat Apr 20, 2013, 6:50am
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cuznvin Said:

I posted all the ingredients in that drink..

Posted April 20, 2013 link

Sorry, I missed that post.  My bad.

Doesn't mean he can't try any of the ideas I listed to replicate the flavor of the drink.
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Posted Sat Apr 20, 2013, 6:54am
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tinytot2 Said:

Sorry, I missed that post.  My bad.

Doesn't mean he can't try any of the ideas I listed to replicate the flavor of the drink.

Posted April 20, 2013 link

I will put money on the fact that he will never replicate that drink.
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