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Posted Mon May 13, 2013, 6:27am
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I have an Estro Vapore (same as the Barista from Starbucks), and I just converted the portafilter to non-pressurized. I have a Gaggia MDF that I use to grind the beans using a setting at #4 and it seems the grind is too fine as no water can go through and I'm afraid of harming the machine.

What can I do to fix this? Should I just go back to pressurized?
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Posted Mon May 13, 2013, 6:50am
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You are not hurting your machine and to fix the issue, grind more coarsely

 
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Posted Mon May 13, 2013, 7:36am
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calblacksmith Said:

You are not hurting your machine and to fix the issue, grind more coarsely

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Thank you, so, with a coarser grind I might be able to apply more pressure (30lbs?) when tamping, and that should fix this?
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Posted Wed May 15, 2013, 10:10pm
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more important is how fresh is your coffee?  are you weighing it for each shot?  
you need to maintain control over as many variables as possible and selectively adjust slowly to get great shots.
once you have fresh coffee,weigh out 16 grams and grind.  tamp to 30#, brew and time it.  if its too fast grind one step finer.  if it chokes the machine go one set coarser and tamp harder.  grinding one step either way makes more of a difference than tamping.
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Posted Thu May 16, 2013, 6:03am
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joey Said:

more important is how fresh is your coffee?  are you weighing it for each shot?  
you need to maintain control over as many variables as possible and selectively adjust slowly to get great shots.
once you have fresh coffee,weigh out 16 grams and grind.  tamp to 30#, brew and time it.  if its too fast grind one step finer.  if it chokes the machine go one set coarser and tamp harder.  grinding one step either way makes more of a difference than tamping.

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Fresh coffee. I will start weighing the coffee starting today since my scale arrives this afternoon.
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