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Markarian
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Espresso: ECM Technika IV Profi WT-WC
Grinder: Baratza Forte AP, HG One
Vac Pot: Bunn Trifecta MB
Drip: Moka, Aeropress, Hario V60
Roaster: Behmor 1600
Posted Mon Jun 24, 2013, 5:57pm
Subject: I succumbed to upgraditis - ECM Technika IV - Thoughts?
 

Okay,

So I'm super excited. My first BRAND NEW machine. Ever. My budget recently changed and I decided to step up a bit to something new (and under warranty). I wanted a lever E61 machine and especially something with a rotary pump. Jim at 1st Line recommended this machine to me, even though I was originally going for the Vibiemme Domobar Super HX. He said this was a better fit since I had a small kitchen and didn't need to make 20 lattes in a single session. Since it's switchable between the tank and plumbed, latter for when I'm feeling adventurous. I also treated myself to a Behmor 1600.

I haven't found much information on the Technika, but ECM Germany seems like a solid company and the machine looks great on paper and in pictures. What are all your thoughts on this current machine?

My beloved Oscar has served me well and taught me many things, but I am at the point in my life where I am far too busy for the garage project car and crave a luxurious daily driver that will serve me for years to come. The Oscar (now inexplicably leaking, but still working well) will go to a dear friend who shares my passion for espresso, but can only afford a tiny Saeco and a hand grinder. I know he will give Oscar the loving home he deserves and will have the technical skill to keep Plindy's mods in proper nick.
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NobbyR
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Location: Germany
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Poccino Opus One, Ariete
Grinder: Eureka Mignon Istantaneo
Vac Pot: N/A
Drip: Melitta Linea Unica de Luxe
Roaster: N/A
Posted Tue Jun 25, 2013, 3:03am
Subject: Re: I succumbed to upgraditis - ECM Technika IV - Thoughts?
 

The ECM Technika IV certainly is a great machine. However, I doubt that you will find many servicing options in the United States. Therefore, asked beforehand, I would have advised you to get a machine that, in case of need, you can get serviced in the Seattle area like a Rocket Espresso Cellini or Giotto Evolutione, for example, which also has a traditional  E61 lever operatated brew group, a rotary pump, and can be used with water tank or plumbing.

However, after the horse has left the barn it's too late to close the door. The Technika is a solid HX machine capable of consistently brewing excellent shot. So congratulations on you new set-up! Have fun with it and enjoy the coffee. Please tell us how your shots turn out.

 
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Joined: 24 Jan 2002
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Location: Freehold, NJ USA
Expertise: Professional

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Vac Pot: Bodum Electric
Drip: None
Roaster: None
Posted Tue Jun 25, 2013, 7:56am
Subject: Re: I succumbed to upgraditis - ECM Technika IV - Thoughts?
 

NobbyR Said:

The ECM Technika IV certainly is a great machine. However, I doubt that you will find many servicing options in the United States. Therefore, asked beforehand, I would have advised you to get a machine that, in case of need, you can get serviced in the Seattle area like a Rocket Espresso Cellini or Giotto Evolutione, for example, which also has a traditional  E61 lever operatated brew group, a rotary pump, and can be used with water tank or plumbing.

However, after the horse has left the barn it's too late to close the door. The Technika is a solid HX machine capable of consistently brewing excellent shot. So congratulations on you new set-up! Have fun with it and enjoy the coffee. Please tell us how your shots turn out.

Posted June 25, 2013 link

Just to note, we do have a company in the Seattle area who is willing and capable to repair this machine, if needed and if it could not be be self-handled by the customer. The topics of parts availability and local service was discussed before the "horse left the barn" in our conversation.  In fact, we reviewed the advantages and disadvantages of owning a rotary pump machine in the home and the care needed to avoid issues. The better news is that our customer does have the capability for self-repair.

In addition, in the event that the machine has to be shipped for repair for those that do not have a local repair shop, the strength and design of the ECM Germany frame makes it possible to ship with less worry of the frame bending.

I hope this rests some of your doubts and hopefully builds your confidence in ECM Germany machines, as well.

 
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Espresso: ECM Vene. A1, La Cimbali M32
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Posted Tue Jun 25, 2013, 7:59am
Subject: Re: I succumbed to upgraditis - ECM Technika IV - Thoughts?
 

Congrats!
I love my ECM, it is a great manufacturer and you should be happy for a LONG time :D ENJOY!

 
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Coffeenoobie
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Posted Tue Jun 25, 2013, 10:59am
Subject: Re: I succumbed to upgraditis - ECM Technika IV - Thoughts?
 

grats on getting a new machine.  I hope you love it.

 
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NobbyR
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Espresso: Poccino Opus One, Ariete
Grinder: Eureka Mignon Istantaneo
Vac Pot: N/A
Drip: Melitta Linea Unica de Luxe
Roaster: N/A
Posted Wed Jun 26, 2013, 5:20am
Subject: Re: I succumbed to upgraditis - ECM Technika IV - Thoughts?
 

1stline Said:

I hope this rests some of your doubts and hopefully builds your confidence in ECM Germany machines, as well.

Posted June 25, 2013 link

I don't doubt the quality of ECM machines the least bit. They're great, but I believe rather rare in America.

 
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Markarian
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Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: ECM Technika IV Profi WT-WC
Grinder: Baratza Forte AP, HG One
Vac Pot: Bunn Trifecta MB
Drip: Moka, Aeropress, Hario V60
Roaster: Behmor 1600
Posted Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:34am
Subject: Re: I succumbed to upgraditis - ECM Technika IV - Thoughts?
 

If you want to look at things from a different perspective, I'd say that anything other than Saeco and Breville is rare for home espresso in America. Anyone with a silver cube is buying a specialty item that is made in Europe and unfamiliar to most commercial espresso technicians. I did have the luxury of living near Simonelli's only US store, so parts were a 20 min drive downtown for me. In that respect, I will certainly miss that convenience. Then again, having an E61 group will probably open me up to a lot of standard parts that work on many different machines. That's just my current thought.
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