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DeanOK
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Posted Wed Jul 24, 2013, 1:51pm
Subject: Accessories for new E61
 

Well, my name is on the list to receive a new Vetrano 2B when they are in stock. I must be honest and say I don't know why I am spending so much money on an espresso machine when there is other things I would like to have.... like a new CookShack PG1000 pellet grill/smoker for my outdoor kitchen I am trying to build up. I guess the smoker will wait a while.

Anyway, here are some accessories I am considering. I am wondering how you guys that have a lot of experience would rate the need for these... useful or just another money wasting trinket? Interested to see your comments.... thanks!!

1) VST Basket (is there any real difference from a standard QM basket)

2) Bottomless portafilter ( I know I want this, but put it on the list anyway)

3) Precision Shower Screen (I have asked about this one already... seems there is not many that have tried it yet).

4) Steam cleaning brush that uses steam from the steam boiler

and don't forget to add you own recommendations.....  :)
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Posted Wed Jul 24, 2013, 2:33pm
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1) VST basket: I think it makes a lot of sense.

2) bottomless pf: definitely a great tool, besides looking cool. I use mine exclusively.

3) precision screen: makes sense to me... But like you said...not many replies I haven't tried it myself.

4) steam cleaning: waste of money to me. You can steam into a rag and then use the hot moist rag to wipes things down.

5) other stuff to have: knockbox, nicely fittings heavy solid tamper, 0.1g scale, kitchen countdown timer, graduated shot receptacle, pitchers, cups, spoons, dosing funnel (if you use a doserless grinder), GH/KH test kit

 
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Posted Wed Jul 24, 2013, 5:10pm
Subject: Re: Accessories for new E61
 

I have 1 and 2. Can confirm VST is an improvement over stock basket that came with my Rancilio Silvia. Love my bottomless portafilter - watching it is like coffeep0rn. :D

Will be buying 3 along with my Vetrano 2B. I figure if the VST showed an improvement, and the precision screen is the same sort of theory/mentality behind it (more even dispersion and pressure of water into the puck) then it can't be a bad thing, especially for $30.

Not buying #4.

I have a scale but honestly once I calibrated my Mini E, I don't use it. Don't use a timer. Using a yogurt cup for a funnel but just ordered an IPANEMA from OrphanEspresso. I have cups and matching saucers (espresso, capp and latte sizes) and demitasse spoons: adds a touch of class and my guests love it when I serve them from it. Knockbox is a must but I just bought a cheap Grindenstein, didn't bother with the nice stainless steel ones. Tamp mat is helpful. Will be getting a water test strips with my Vetrano when it ships. Also bought water filter/softener for the tank. Oh, Cafelat cleaner powder and a descaling solution. Coffeetool brush. Grinder brush. And a nice quality tamper. Those are my tools of the trade. Good luck!
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Posted Wed Jul 24, 2013, 6:13pm
Subject: Re: Accessories for new E61
 

1 - No
2 - yes
3 - No
4 - No
5 - E-61 group thermometer YES!

Don't worry about special baskets nor shower screens. Use the machine for six months before making changes like that.

 
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Posted Wed Jul 24, 2013, 9:46pm
Subject: Re: Accessories for new E61
 

frcn Said:

Use the machine for six months before making changes like that.

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really Sound advice.  I am not trying to be flippant, but if you actually had the machine in hand and were actually diligently trying to make good espresso with it, I doubt you would be asking those questions.  Only when you know your stock machine  inside and out will you know what changes are better to you.  

Your statement that you do not know why you are buying the machine gives me pause for concern.  There are thousands on this forum that save their dollars and scrimp to upgrade.  They know exactly why they are buying their machine: they love espresso and its art form.  

There are several people on this forum who make great coffee, know their machines, their grinders and beans.  their  skill came from working at the basics, not from buying every new gadget.    I aspire to be like them someday.  

I applaud you for being honest about your doubts.  Good espresso takes time, money and patience.  not sure about  what it takes to be a good pellet smoker.
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Posted Wed Jul 24, 2013, 10:04pm
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PeterWWbeagle Said:

Good espresso takes time, money and patience.  not sure about  what it takes to be a good pellet smoker...

Posted July 24, 2013 link

...and chapter 12 - EASY GUIDE TO BETTER ESPRESSO AT HOME on my website  www.EspressoMyEspresso.com.        ;-)

 
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Posted Wed Jul 24, 2013, 10:34pm
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Your site has great info Randy.  And stresses the fundamentals and passion of coffee, not consumerism.
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Posted Thu Jul 25, 2013, 3:47am
Subject: Re: Accessories for new E61
 

Use stock for 6 months and you will know the answers yourself and you will not need the thermometer, IMHO it is a fluf accessorie. I wanted one when first starting but held off on buying one, now I am glad I don't have that big thing sticking out of my GH.

 
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DeanOK
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Posted Thu Jul 25, 2013, 8:14am
Subject: Re: Accessories for new E61
 

emradguy Said:

5) other stuff to have: knockbox, nicely fittings heavy solid tamper, 0.1g scale, kitchen countdown timer, graduated shot receptacle, pitchers, cups, spoons, dosing funnel (if you use a doserless grinder), GH/KH test kit

Posted July 24, 2013 link

Luckily, I already have all of this stuff (except the test kit) that I use with my CC1

I called CCS this morning and asked them to add a precision bottomless PF to my order. I think I will stop there for now. I don't think the bottomless PF I have now for my CC1 will work with the B2.
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Posted Thu Jul 25, 2013, 9:04am
Subject: Re: Accessories for new E61
 

frcn Said:

Don't worry about special baskets nor shower screens. Use the machine for six months before making changes like that.

Posted July 24, 2013 link

Have to second that. With my V2B I'll be getting at first only what I classify as "tools" (e.g., naked portafilter, knockbox, etc.), no "improvement items" yet.  

This brings me to my big dilemma with the E61 temp gauge: on one hand, it may be considered as an important information device needed for proper brewing; but on the other hand I hope that once the correct temp offset is programmed into the PID -- the gauge will not be as necessary. And even more than that: it seriously violates the beauty and aesthetics of the machine in my opinion. For now, until I get to a point in the future where I feel that "I must know what's the exact E61 temp" -- I'm not installing it.
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