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Posted Sun Sep 8, 2013, 9:32am
Subject: Longer/shorter-courser/finer- or nothing....
 

I hope someone is getting something out of this besides me......

Ok, here is another video. I think most would agree to this is at least a keeper (but maybe not).  I went to some effort to get the bottom of the portafilter in the shot so you can see blonding easier (or not).

Dose 18 grams
Yield: 32 grams
Time: 25 seconds from pump on.

If you were critiquing this shot, what would you say? Longer/shorter, courser/finer, or nothing..... I know this is not how you choose a good shot, but much or what we do is visual and I would just like to know if we all see it the same.  BTW, this is not fresh coffee... it has been frozen.

Here is the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BhEogbFIMo

Yeah... I know my machine made some weird noises. I think it was one of the pressure regulating valves..
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Posted Sun Sep 8, 2013, 10:16am
Subject: Re: Longer/shorter-courser/finer- or nothing....
 

Properly frozen coffee is fine, I do it all the time with very little loss of quality

It looked fine to me. It is normal for the shot to lighten in color over time, in MHO, it did not blond. I would have expected the creme to last longer from a bottomless PF though, not a big deal, just an observation..

 
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Posted Mon Sep 9, 2013, 7:48am
Subject: Re: Longer/shorter-courser/finer- or nothing....
 

I agree the crema doesn't look as thick as mine and separated really fast.  (I freeze all beans) When it blonds you can see the cone get smaller and if you leave it you will hear the water flow faster and it sounds runny and loud.

 
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Posted Mon Sep 9, 2013, 9:29am
Subject: Re: Longer/shorter-courser/finer- or nothing....
 

Well I usually go for 2 oz minimum with that dose amount. I'd possibly go a tad finer for a bit of a slower shot.   As for the blonding, does your lever allow you to slow the brew at all?  Start light, mid flow at full pressure and slow again to stop the blonding?
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