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Posted Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:53am
Subject: Used ECM Giotto Questions


For a number of months I've been researching a machine purchase. I found a great deal on a QM Alexia redesign but the distributor ran out of stock.

I liked the Alexia's profile and fit well with my needs (espresso drinks, 1-2 times a day, occasional latte etc). The replacement offered by the shop was a QM LA Certa which I can find little info on. The shop said this replaced the Alexia but it was $300 more than the Alexia so I passed.

Since that fell through, I began looking at levers, specifically the Europiccola.

Just the other day an original ECM Giotto came up which would equal the price of what I can get a LA Pavoni for.

I'm not quite sure on what to go for now. The ECM is maybe more than I need, but I like the design, the E61 group and this unit has been professionally serviced and well cared for by the single owner.

Is there anything to be wary of with the original Giotto's?

Is maintenance costly and can I do most of it myself?

I liked the simplicity of the lever but this ECM may be an opportunity to step into an HX machine. Not sure what to do at this point.

I have a grinder and I am roasting at home now.

Any advice would be appreciated.
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Posted Sun Sep 29, 2013, 11:15am
Subject: Re: Used ECM Giotto Questions

I had a Giotto Premium for 10 years.  It's a wonderful unit.  Two things to be aware of:

  1.   the design of the drip try is really not that thought out.  It's a bit tricky to remove but easy once you get the hang of it.  It does not come equiped with a back splash guard as you see with the current Quick Mill line.  Therefore, over time water has a tendency to go behind the drip tray and under the frame.  

  2. As the frame is NOT stainless steel as is the case with other espresso units it has a tendency to rust, especially under the drip tray.  

Other then that it's as solid as a brick.

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