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keithd
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Espresso: Crossland CC1
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Posted Sat Oct 26, 2013, 1:44pm
Subject: Re: Keep what I have, CC1, or something else?
 

Well, all the two or more group machines were 220V on ebay that I saw. I did see some 1 group machines, but two+ seems to be more prevalent.

You're right in that I won't be buying through ebay, I'll have to scour the used restaurant equipment stores if I ever go commercial.
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keithd
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Posted Sun Oct 27, 2013, 2:42pm
Subject: Re: Keep what I have, CC1, or something else?
 

Update -

I went and bought the CC1 from DeanOK. Tried one shot at his house - tasted great! I've tried two shots so far and ran out of time. Running into the problem of spraying all over with the bottomless portafilter, but having seen it pull one good shot, I know it's a problem with my grind or technique, most likely grind as I had my grinder set to its finest setting. I'll back it off a bit. Maybe after dinner I'll try again.
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Posted Sun Oct 27, 2013, 3:33pm
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30 lbs of pressure with the tamper, 20-30 seconds on your brew time to brew 2 ounces. Make sure your tamp is level (watching video of pro barista winners i now use my fingers to level off the ground coffee before tamping)

If it takes more/less time to brew two ounces adjust either your tamp or grind. Are you using fresh beans?
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Posted Sun Oct 27, 2013, 3:54pm
Subject: Re: Keep what I have, CC1, or something else?
 

keithd Said:

Update -

I went and bought the CC1 from DeanOK. Tried one shot at his house - tasted great! I've tried two shots so far and ran out of time. Running into the problem of spraying all over with the bottomless portafilter, but having seen it pull one good shot, I know it's a problem with my grind or technique, most likely grind as I had my grinder set to its finest setting. I'll back it off a bit. Maybe after dinner I'll try again.

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Keith:  The shot you had at my house was about 36 grams yield from 17 grams of ground coffee in around 25 or 27 seconds if I remember correctly. That was probably about 1.75 ounces on the calibrated shot glass immediately after the shot.  My tamper is calibrated at 30 lbs. The shot you had here wasn't prefect... it did spritz a bit at the first. Practice a bit and you will get there unless your grinder is not up to the task. I am not familiar with the grinder you have.
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keithd
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Expertise: I like coffee

Espresso: Crossland CC1
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Drip: Aeropress
Posted Sun Oct 27, 2013, 4:01pm
Subject: Re: Keep what I have, CC1, or something else?
 

Beans were roasted on the 17th of October, and I ground 2-3 minutes before brewing. I measured out 18.0 grams of coffee.

I just need to take the time to get things right.
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Espresso: Crossland CC1
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Posted Sun Oct 27, 2013, 4:28pm
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The Proline with Maz Burrs, some have had ok luck, others like no luck/bad luck trying to dial in so not sure if that may be your issue. Seems even with Mazzer Burrs it can be hard to dial. Actually kinda sucks as it is a cool ass looking grinder to have out on the counter and I actually thought of getting one and doing the swap before I got the preciso.
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Posted Sun Oct 27, 2013, 5:52pm
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I keep my proline because it works well for drip and yeah...it looks good.
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keithd
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Posted Sun Oct 27, 2013, 7:29pm
Subject: Re: Keep what I have, CC1, or something else?
 

Well, took the adjustment knob apart and set it so the "finest" setting is two clicks finer than before. Still sprays, but significantly less than at first. The shot taste is less bitter, too.

I'll try more adjustments tomorrow, SWMBO has gone to bed. At least I have some hope for getting this right.
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keithd
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Posted Mon Oct 28, 2013, 4:17pm
Subject: Re: Keep what I have, CC1, or something else?
 

Okay, pulled a few shots tonight.

The spraying is mostly to completely gone. I'm having an almost opposite issue now in that extraction is taking far too long. I think I need to adjust my grind and tamp - it looks a little too fine and I think my tamp is far above 30 lbs. I tried a slight nutating tamp and it seems to have changed things a bit. I'm also trying to hit 15.0 grams of coffee in the portafilter - the consistency can't hurt.
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CMIN
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Posted Mon Oct 28, 2013, 5:12pm
Subject: Re: Keep what I have, CC1, or something else?
 

keithd Said:

Okay, pulled a few shots tonight.

The spraying is mostly to completely gone. I'm having an almost opposite issue now in that extraction is taking far too long. I think I need to adjust my grind and tamp - it looks a little too fine and I think my tamp is far above 30 lbs. I tried a slight nutating tamp and it seems to have changed things a bit. I'm also trying to hit 15.0 grams of coffee in the portafilter - the consistency can't hurt.

Posted October 28, 2013 link

are you weighing your beans? The CC1 has a stock double basket that's on the large side, can go up to 20g depending on roast/bean type. I've found 16-18g works nice for me.

You may have to play with your tamp, the Proline doesn't have the adjustability far as I know to tweak the grind while keeping tamp the same the way a stepless does or one that acts stepless like the Baratzas.
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