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canuckcoffeeguy
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Posted Fri Nov 8, 2013, 3:54pm
Subject: Re: Keep what I have, CC1, or something else?
 

I have a Hario Mini Mill and made it stepless with Burner0000 's advice. However, it requires an M6 posilock nut, as opposed to the M8 for the Skerton. Also, I'm still waiting to buy my home espresso setup, so I haven't used it to grind for espresso. I currently use it for my Moka pot and drip needs. So the Mini Mill can be modded to stepless.
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Posted Fri Nov 8, 2013, 10:16pm
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I ordered a Hario Mini Mill today. It was $28 shipped from Amazon.

I know it will be slow, but I want/need to see if I can get better grinds than what I have now. The big bonus is that when I go deployed again a year from now, I'll have a great grinder to take with me.
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Posted Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:00pm
Subject: Re: Keep what I have, CC1, or something else?
 

keithd Said:

I ordered a Hario Mini Mill today. It was $28 shipped from Amazon.

I know it will be slow, but I want/need to see if I can get better grinds than what I have now. The big bonus is that when I go deployed again a year from now, I'll have a great grinder to take with me.

Posted November 8, 2013 link

you'll have to make it stepless with the #6 nylock, otherwise you'll end up with gushers or chokers again. What about making the KA stepless?
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Posted Sat Nov 9, 2013, 10:07am
Subject: Re: Keep what I have, CC1, or something else?
 

I just did the stepless mod to the KA grinder.

I wrapped the adjuster's threads with teflon pipe tape, I flipped the detent pins, and cut a smooth plastic disk to block off the adjuster's teeth. I'll have to see how well it works out - probably better than the half-step clicks it had before.
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Posted Tue Nov 12, 2013, 8:29pm
Subject: Re: Keep what I have, CC1, or something else?
 

OK, final update to this thread as it's gotten too large and sidetracked I think.

Just got in the Hario Mini Mill. The first grind was far too coarse as I used someone's suggested grind setting, so into the Aeropress it went. Set it two clicks finer (not stepless yet), and BAMMO! A good shot from my CC1. It blonded too early I think, but it developed the single "downspout" much earlier than what I'd seen before. There also was a large amount of crema. I think just a smidge finer and I'd be right there. I really liked that I could cover the Mini base with the inverted PF, then invert both and all the grounds fall right into the basket. The manual portion was a chore, no lie, but it ground quite easily and I kinda need an arm workout. :-O

I'm really liking the Red Bird. Good roast/chocolatey notes (but I'm no tasting expert) so long as you don't pull a bad shot. Even works well IMO for Aeropress, I didn't try drip coffee.

All in all the KA Proline and the Hario Mini each have strengths and weaknesses. The CC1 will do its part as long as I do mine - PIDs, pre-soaks, and extraction timers won't help you if your grind and technique are bad.

Now I just need to be able to justify that HG One someday... :)
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Posted Tue Nov 19, 2013, 4:03pm
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Keithd, did you end up modding your Hario Slim to stepless? If so, curious how it's working with your CC1. You mentioned going a little finer with the Hario might get you to a sweet spot.
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Posted Fri Nov 22, 2013, 11:50pm
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Sorry for not keeping up with the thread.

I did mod the Hario Mini to stepless. I bought a M6 locknut that was recommended here, and I wonder if that person even owns a Mini! The M6 was too small. So I went to the garage and I had two regular nuts that threaded onto the shaft and just decided to use them in a jam nut configuration.

I can't even begin to claim I'm making "god shots", but I've had several good shots where there was tiger striping throughout the whole shot. It's harder to adjust with the jam nut vs a lock nut, but it is infinitely variable. I'm getting really close to the point where I can begin fiddling with pre-infusion settings. The only gripe I can make is that the spent grinds don't drop into the knockbox as a puck anymore. But the quality of the shots makes the crumbly grinds seem minor in comparison.

Does anyone know if the Hario Mini and Skerton use the same size burrs? I'd really like to get a hand grinder with a slightly larger burr as the Mini is SLOWWWW. I'm not giving it up as it produces great espresso and I've never seen a better travel grinder once made stepless, but grinding 18gm by hand can take nearly 2 minutes on a slow day. BTW - I'd have bought the Lido 2 already if it were available. Seems like a perfect portable/mini grinder.

Too bad there's only 2 larger burr hand grinders out there - the Pharos and the HG One, and only the HG One uses Titan-level burrs. edit - just checked, the Pharos uses a 68mm burr set, so the Pharos does use a Titan or near-Titan level burr set.
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Posted Sat Nov 23, 2013, 6:09am
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keithd Said:

...I'm getting really close to the point where I can begin fiddling with pre-infusion settings....

Posted November 22, 2013 link

Keith.... did you leave the offset setting at -12 (I think that is what it was)?  I know it is hard to make a lot of changes in a short amount of time unless your making espresso for a bunch of people so I suspect you haven't even thought about it yet. I imagine that within a few months, you will have tried adjusting every parameter to get the taste you like.
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Posted Sat Nov 23, 2013, 7:13am
Subject: Re: Keep what I have, CC1, or something else?
 

Hi Keithd, apologies. Strange things afoot here. Not sure what to say. I'm the one that modded my Hario Slim. I swear I used an M6 posilock, unless the bin was mislabeled when I bought it. But I first tried an M8 posilock, since that's what people use for a Skerton, and it was too big. So I went back to the store and got what was labeled as an M6, and it was clearly smaller than the M8 and it fit perfectly.

So it's possible both of the M6 and M8 nuts I bought were mislabeled, or my Hario is different(unlikely), or there's another explanation I'm not thinking of.

Regardless, my Hario Slim is working well as a stepless grinder, but I don't use it for espresso. Just my Moka pot and drip. I imagine grinding for espresso would be hard work, as you say.
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CMIN
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Posted Sat Nov 23, 2013, 8:34am
Subject: Re: Keep what I have, CC1, or something else?
 

I'm pretty sure the Mini and Skerton use the same burr, difference is the slimmer container/body (hence Mini Slim), and yeh slow as balls for espresso grinding lol. Does smell nice as heck though when hand grinding. I use my Mini for traveling for drip etc. You can attach a drill bit to the head where the handle would go and use a drill carefully to grind (one that has variable speeds/variable trigger would be better, not the cheap ones that are like full bore the second you touch the trigger lol)

Only fast hand grinders for espresso would be the Pharos ad HG-One, there are antique grinders as well but they all have that same slow quality unless someone on here knows of an antique one that's relatively quick? Tons of them on ebay
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