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warmseth
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Espresso: Le'Lit PL041
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Posted Wed Nov 20, 2013, 4:08pm
Subject: euro 2000?
 

A guy is selling a Euro 2000 Junior Deluxe and mazzer mini for $800. Presuming these are in good condition, it sounds like a pretty good deal, no?  I've been looking at HX and DB machines that are a lot more than that, that's for sure.  I don't see a whole lot of info on the JD but the "first look" review here seemed pretty good. And Mazzers have a good reputation.
I'll be stepping up from a lelit pl041 and Vanelli Roma grinder.

PS I'm a latte drinker and steaming and milk is paramount. Also I like to make back to back drinks for friends so the ability to spit 4-5 out in quick succession is also important.

 
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Vac Pot: B. D. Electric
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Posted Wed Nov 20, 2013, 5:51pm
Subject: Re: euro 2000?
 

My concern re the "Euro 2000" is the review is 10 years old and I could not find anyone selling them new. Raises questions of if someone stocks parts if it breaks down. The mazzer is a known quantity of course, and has the rep of being rock solid. I would be interested if you could give us some feedback as to the machine and its status.

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Posted Wed Nov 20, 2013, 9:27pm
Subject: Re: euro 2000?
 

That's a good point. I too was unable to find any information beyond the initial release review. And Caffetech that carried the machine, no longer does. Though they do carry some parts including the heating element.

 
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Location: Denver
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Espresso: Quick Mill Anita,CMA...
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Posted Thu Nov 21, 2013, 12:36am
Subject: Re: euro 2000?
 

I have a euro 2000.  Bought it a few months ago for $150.  The stainless shell is thin but the mechanicals are very good.  Stainless frame.  Makes tons of steam.  Beautiful heavy e61, nice porta filters.   Copper tubing and nicked plated boiler.  Heavy 105c wiring.  Mine was made in 2004.  

All the parts are very common except the steam and water valve. Stefano has said seats can be an issue but I found an old post where someone used a small Teflon rod to fashion new ones.   Mine work fine and the fix looks easy

They stopped making euro 2000 many years ago.  It's an entry level but still true prosumer machine.

Stefano has rebuilt them and is very knowledgable. He gave me advice.  Easy to descale and easy to fix.

Mine is a rare factory modded plumbed in unit with a FOT vibe pump.  Love it.

It's in our high altitude  vacation house and is perfect for that use at 8500 feet.  I really like it, dead simple and does good coffee, consistently.  It's not a QM Anita or rocket Giotto,  but light years better than a Silvia.  

I got mine from a store that bought it 10 years ago but never really used it.  Funny, when i went to pick it up, the store offered the grinder for $100 - a like new mazer mini with pristine burrs.  A rare CL find.

The price you mention is high.  If the unit was maintained, I could see 600 max for both.  

I have r and r mine just to see how it ticked.  Happy to answer any questions.  
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Ian
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Espresso: Euro2000,Rancilio
Grinder: Mazzer,La Cimbali
Vac Pot: Cona-->CraigA
Drip: Belgique for emergencies
Roaster: Primas with variac
Posted Thu Nov 21, 2013, 3:39am
Subject: Re: euro 2000?
 

Pretty much agree with the above post although not knowing the market there, can't comment on the prices.

Don't remember exactly when I got mine but it was a while ago and has been pretty reliable despite seeing a lot of use.

Have you seen this thread? "Euro 2000 junior parts?"


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Ian

 
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Posted Fri Nov 22, 2013, 12:03pm
Subject: Re: euro 2000?
 

Hi Ian

Thanks for including the older Thread with all the info on EURO 2000.  I found it very helpful when I first made my purchase.

Now that i have actually used the EURO2000, I have been impressed.  And I can see why many comment that most of the entry level HX prosumers are (in my wife's English accent) Much of  a  Muchness.  I was fearful at first of buying a machine from a defunct company, and now realize most just do sheet metal / assembly of common parts.  

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Ian
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Roaster: Primas with variac
Posted Sat Nov 23, 2013, 1:59am
Subject: Re: euro 2000?
 

Hi Peter, good to hear that you're getting on well with it.

Cheers

Ian

 
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