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Raenstoirm
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Posted Sun Dec 8, 2013, 12:56pm
Subject: Cheapish/easy/fast machine suggestions
 

Hey all,

I am not a coffee expert by any means, far from it in fact. For my day to day coffee, I am happy with my keurig and milk frothing wand. But lately I have established a Starbucks addiction. At $5 a day though, I need to move that addiction back to my own kitchen. I have tried to create something fun with the keurig, but it doesn't work. I don't want to spend a fortune (since I don't exactly have refined coffee tastes) and I don't want a machine that takes an hour to get something out of since I need my latte or macchiato before heading to work in the morning. I have been looking on my own but it seems most of those in my price range (a couple hundred dollars, but cheaper is ideal) are pod based. Will the pods do what I want? I am thinking I need whole beans and a grinder, but maybe not?
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Posted Sun Dec 8, 2013, 1:41pm
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Please read
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Buying advice: GRINDER GRINDER GRINDER. Don't cheap out on the grinder.

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Posted Sun Dec 8, 2013, 6:19pm
Subject: Re: Cheapish/easy/fast machine suggestions
 

Cheap/Easy/Fast/Fresh Ground means you're looking for a Superautomatic. Go out and try some.  As I type this, there's a Jura advert blinking away at me from 1st in coffee, but there are cheaper superautomatics than the Juras if you want to go with a disposable.  Try some.  Mid-range SAs will be about on par with Starbucks. The milk obscures a lot of the shortcomings of a fast-brewed espresso.
The phrase "You get what you pay for" is true, but one could also argue "You get what you work for". Spending the time to practice making espresso that you like with a less expensive machine will get you better results in the long run. Try before you buy.
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Posted Mon Dec 9, 2013, 8:37am
Subject: Re: Cheapish/easy/fast machine suggestions
 

Likely a Super Auto is what you are looking for.
That said, they are expensive, maintance intensive and short lived but they are fast and easy to use and will be on a par with Starbucks, in other words, garbage.

 
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Posted Mon Dec 9, 2013, 10:48am
Subject: Re: Cheapish/easy/fast machine suggestions
 

To get by amd learn, get a Gaggia Classic or a Gaggia Espresso model, used between 100-150 $
then get a Baratza Virturso grinder.
this is about the bare minimum you will need to learn about espresso.
Next save some cash for a minimum $500 grinder and a more advanced espresso machine, $1200 plus $
above all, get fresh roasted beans, roasted near your place, or mail oder them from a dialy roaster. figure no more than a half pound a week at first, then add more if you need them
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Posted Wed Dec 11, 2013, 10:29am
Subject: Re: Cheapish/easy/fast machine suggestions
 

If you take $5 a day Starbucks for a year, that $1200+  is a workable home espresso kit.
For the $200 or less you propose, I would suggest you get a Baratza grinder, some fresh quality whole beans, and some of those refillable Keurig capsules. Your Keurig is capable of brewing a good cup of coffee when dialed in with quality fresh beans.  This will be cheaper and better quality coffee than the disposable capsules.
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Posted Thu Dec 12, 2013, 7:47am
Subject: Re: Cheapish/easy/fast machine suggestions
 

that is a good idea of a place for the OP to start.  Then if they like it they can move up from there.

 
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Buying advice: GRINDER GRINDER GRINDER. Don't cheap out on the grinder.

My coffee treasure map...
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Oscar trick out: http://s156.photobucket.com/user/GandBteam/story/14231
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