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Posted Tue Dec 31, 2013, 5:45am
Subject: Newbie on Gaggia Classic + question on non pressurised filter
 

Hi guys

I dumped the Nespresso (sorry George) and received my Gaggia classic yesterday night (great price from Amazon marketplace by the way). I am now waiting for the Iberital MC2 grinder in the New Year.

I tried a couple of shots using Lavazza Ground coffee and the crema filter, not bad taste but the flow is too quick and i think it's due to the coarse of the coffee and the pressurised filter, leaving aside the poor plastic tamper (ordered a proper one with the grinder).

I have a question on non-pressurised basket. I have ordered one but wanted to ask if you need to keep the plastic pinhole in the portafilter when installing a non pressurised basket.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Nicola
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Posted Tue Dec 31, 2013, 8:27am
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Just the portafilter and basket is all that is needed. since the Lavazza is old, it will pour fast. Better get some fresh coffee on the way also.
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Posted Tue Dec 31, 2013, 8:32am
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Steamer
Thank you very much for your reply. Much appreciated

Will order freshly roasted beans (peruvian) from the local coffee shop after the grinder is delivered. Can't wait

Do you also recommend a naked portafiler? Our local cafe uses them and I see from the Forum they are popular. Are they really worth and produce better coffees?

Happy New Year
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Posted Tue Dec 31, 2013, 8:58am
Subject: Re: Newbie on Gaggia Classic + question on non pressurised filter
 

They have a couple of benefits.
They give you more room under the group head for larger cups.

They make cleanup nicer as it is very easy to remove coffee basket from PF and there is no bottom in the PF to get dirty.

You can see the results of your shot prep easily, you can see if the shot is even or if it is through one side of the puck or if your distrobution and tamping is good.

There is more crema in the shot as the coffee does not need to flow around the bottom of the PF, through the hole, out the spouts THEN into your cup

 
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Posted Tue Dec 31, 2013, 9:07am
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Thanks Blacksmith
Will order one - it's also kind of sexier

Can I also ask a clarification on volume of coffee? The Gaggia came with a crema portafiler which seems to be a double. Do you recommend ordering only a double non pressurised basket for two shots rather than two baskets (1 & 2 Shots)

I tend to like strong coffees and on Youtube lots of videos feature people with a double basket
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Posted Tue Dec 31, 2013, 1:53pm
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I would think the classic would come with a double and a single basket, and the pin hole disk. Yu can use the single and double baskets without the disk.
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Posted Tue Dec 31, 2013, 4:19pm
Subject: Re: Newbie on Gaggia Classic + question on non pressurised filter
 

Welcome to the Classic Club!

1) You do not need that plastic insert once you get your non-pressurized basket.
2) A double non pressurized basket is the way to go!
3) The bottomless PF is a wonderful learning tool, as it shows channeling and other prep errors. I personally rarely use the typ. PF, mainly because I like the way it looks.
   Caveat: Be prepared to clean the spritz! :D
4) Fast pulls could be from the coarse grind as stated above. But with the pressurized baskets the stream just kinda jets out... Maybe this is the key to the foamy crema it is advertized to produce?

Another factor that might be causing a fast pull is the high OPV factory setting (high pressure). Out of the box it is set at ~12 Bar. For a better taste it is suggested to adjust the OPV down to 10 Bar, it is a quick and easy adjustment. This requires about a 270 degree turn on the OPV (this will make sense after watching the video)

Here is a video that shows you how to do this adjustment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXoz6Aoykpg
(I did have a better tutorial but the link seems to not be working. the vid is still good just a little shaky).  

He uses a ratchet but an allen wrench works just fine. Also, a lot of people use a pressure gauge to make this adjustment, but there have been some that did the adjustment without it. It seems to be the general consensus that the 270 degree turn does the trick!


A great resource for questions about your Classic is the Gaggia users forum: www.gaggiausersgroup.com
There is a lot of information and how-to resources there about your Classic. Also, we love questions :)

Hope this helps!
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