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Posted Wed Jan 8, 2014, 3:21am
Subject: Who has seen this knock off. What is the original? "Elegant 8400"
 

This machine is on sale in Thailand and I am wondering if anyone knows what it really is. It is badged as "Elegant 8400" which I can not find anything on Google about.

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Posted Wed Jan 8, 2014, 4:38am
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It looks like a generic SBDU, but I can't read the website so I can't offer any more than that, sorry.

 
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Posted Wed Jan 8, 2014, 5:54am
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On sale for how much?
In Canada, that SBDU is assembled from generic parts in Italy by a company called Imat and rebadged with whatever the retailer wants. I see them most often in Canada badged Faema Toronto, Pavoni Domus Bar or Mokita (Each of which is quite different from the other). The fact that your Thai machine has the thermometer dial in the middle is nice. The thermometer is not common here. They sell for around $600 canadian which is far too much considering what they are. The good ones do have three-way valves, you're paying a lot for the stainless steel body which is a little un-neccessary on what is basically a disposable machine.  By the time it wears out, you'll be wanting to upgrade to a better machine.
So, there is no "Original" as it were.  It is just the commonly available stainless box to assemble a small SBDU in (Though a couple days ago, someone was pointing out a dual thermoblock being built in that box).
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Posted Wed Jan 8, 2014, 6:34am
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Thanks for the replies! The "Elegant 8400" is all around the JJ(Chatachuk) market in Bangkok. I have not bought it, but was wondering what it was. It is sold at wholesale places who cater to street vendors and small restaurants. I saw it next to the JTC Omniblend (Basically a Vitamix blender) which I bought for a lot less than I could in N. America, so I thought maybe there was a deal on the espresso machine too. The "Elagant 8400" is listed at about 13 000 Bhat, or around 400 USD. They also sell the Breville Infuser for around the same price, $400 which is easily researched and I know a bit about. I was just wondering if at the same price point the "Elegant" might actually be more value than the Breville, or not. I already own the Breville Smart Grinder, which I use with my manual "Presso," so I'm now looking for a decent electric espresso machine under the 500 dollar mark. Any advice, suggestions, and opinions are welcome. Is there a better bang for the buck than the Breville Infuser? Again, thanks in advance for taking it easy on this noob and for your help. Not to muddy these waters, but what would be better, the Breville Infuser with Smart Grinder or the combination grinder/espresso machine; the Breville "Barista Express BES870XL?" I.e. is the grinder in the BES870XL equal in grind quality to the Smart Grinder?
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